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  • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
    its all just an excuse for every authoritarian idiot in Western society to get his wet dream of order and rules and surveillance

    complete overreaction and hysteria
    Yeah, I guess that every (right wing) politician get's a hardon every time that police prevents a possible suicide bomber to activate his bomb.

    Considering that every left wing government without any bomb threats would consider such surveillance quite natural, I guess that you are i favour of it.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
      its all just an excuse for every authoritarian idiot in Western society to get his wet dream of order and rules and surveillance

      complete overreaction and hysteria
      pot kettle black.
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      • As a veteran Northern Ireland Special Branch officer said - looks like they going to make every mistake we made
        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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        • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
          and then send em to Iraq
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
            its all just an excuse for every authoritarian idiot in Western society to get his wet dream of order and rules and surveillance.
            As NYE so amply demonstrated earlier in this thread.
            Only feebs vote.

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            • Originally posted by Flubber
              Bottom line . . . if you run from police toward a train station you get dead quick.
              Sorry, but that's mad. Quite ordinary and respectable people panic when confronted by the police. It's an established fact and is down to our genes. The vast majority of people acting suspiciously are in fact quite innocent and don't even know that they are under suspicion. Many of them will panic and act irrationally if confronted by the police. It's just not good enough to expect them to act rationally.

              I think the police overreacted in this situation due to their fear of terrorists. That's understandable to some extent, but nothing changes the fact that they f up royally and now this innocent man is dead, for nothing more than being non-white and inappropriately clothed.

              Why is it that right wing people are so quick to excuse violence by the authorities? What's wrong with you all?
              Only feebs vote.

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              • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
                As a veteran Northern Ireland Special Branch officer said - looks like they going to make every mistake we made
                Such as ? I can't remeber that the british police at that time was confronted with suicide bombers.
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                • Originally posted by BlackCat

                  Yeah, I guess that every (right wing) politician get's a hardon every time that police prevents a possible suicide bomber to activate his bomb.
                  Again, you show your ignorance of British politics. British right-wing politicos only get hard ons while being sexually humiliated and smeared with excrement by leather clad dominatrixes. Either that, or when Edwina Currie flashes her boobs.

                  Considering that every left wing government without any bomb threats would consider such surveillance quite natural, I guess that you are i favour of it.
                  Is there something in Denmark's water? I thought it was the Germans who were this way. Perhaps they were covering for you guys.
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • Originally posted by Agathon


                    As NYE so amply demonstrated earlier in this thread.
                    Demonstrated what, that you're frothing at the mouth over police taking steps to safeguard themselves and the public?
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                    • Originally posted by Agathon


                      Sorry, but that's mad. Quite ordinary and respectable people panic when confronted by the police. It's an established fact and is down to our genes. The vast majority of people acting suspiciously are in fact quite innocent and don't even know that they are under suspicion. Many of them will panic and act irrationally if confronted by the police. It's just not good enough to expect them to act rationally.

                      I think the police overreacted in this situation due to their fear of terrorists. That's understandable to some extent, but nothing changes the fact that they f up royally and now this innocent man is dead, for nothing more than being non-white and inappropriately clothed.

                      Why is it that right wing people are so quick to excuse violence by the authorities? What's wrong with you all?
                      There is nothing wrong with anyone -except maybe you. I don't think that anyone is pleased or find any kind of joy in what has happend, quite contratray.

                      Though, that doesn't change that most of us prefers that police tries to prevent a suicide bomber to trigger his bomb. That wasn't the case this time, but the person acted as a such, so things happend as they did.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                      • Originally posted by MarkG
                        at how many shots on the head would you be certain they guy was ded?

                        at how many shots would you take a quick look to see if he had any bombs on him?
                        I already said the five shots (or is it seven?) should raise eyebrows.

                        The shooting would all be over before you checked for a belt in this situation.
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                        • Originally posted by Agathon

                          Well, part of my topic is the authoritarian personality on display in this thread, but OK.
                          Can my topic be... people... who cite articles about high speed chases in North America when discussing policing in a European city experiencing suicide bombings?
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                          • You are capable of telling the difference between chasing a kid in a boosted car from thinking someone with an explosive belt on is headed for a crowded place that has been the scene of eight explosive attacks in the recent past, aren't you, Aggie?

                            Please tell me you can tell the difference.
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                            • Originally posted by notyoueither


                              Can my topic be... people... who cite articles about high speed chases in North America when discussing policing in a European city experiencing suicide bombings?
                              You probably can do that, but how man of them is suspected as beoing suicide bombers and how many are killied because of that ?
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                              • Oh, and the Rodney King lead in just adds loads to the seriousness that I should take your source with, doesn't it?
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