Schiavo Autopsy report ready

[BlackCat]

There IS actually treatments that I guess isn't used much in public hospitals here in europe.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/faith.html

[chequita guevara]

Like aromatheraphy and homiopathy aren't huge in Europe.

[BlackCat]

Might be, but it's not paid by public health care.

[chequita guevara]

AFAIK, prayer is free.

[Ned]

Originally posted by BlackCat




You get funnier and funnier. Do you really belive that euorpean health care is low quality ?

What makes you think that socialized medicine where wages and prices are controlled attracts the best? The US has free medicine in terms of the providers. Free in terms of freedom from you f**king socialists.

[Ned]

Originally posted by shawnmmcc
Our mental health system is nonexistant, and shameful. Law enforcement officers and jails are becoming the first line of people dealing with mental illness. However, the proper care for the mentally ill is not cheap and we have this mantra of "taxes are bad" while whining about wanting something for nothing. "You pay for what you get", and "You are your brother's keeper," are sadly out of vogue in US politics, and thought.

We also have system with the likes of the ACLU where mentally ill people were once kept in institutions. But thanks our wonderful ACLU, those so mentally ill or sick (drug addicted) that they cannot fend for themselves are left to wander the streets and get by as best they can. Hence, crime, prostitution and homelessness abound on the streets of our cities.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
If she could feel pain, that means she is still sentient, and retains some brain function.

Wrong. The ability to feel physical pain (which is what Shiavo was capable of at most) is nothing more tan reacting to a physical stimulus.

That is, unless you want to consider insects, certain computers/robots, and certain plants sentient, seeing as they have reactions to what could be considered "pain".

[Q Classic]

Boris, don't use "Schindlers". I know you want to combine swindlers and Shaivo, but Schindlers conjures up a Spielberg movie.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned


What makes you think that socialized medicine where wages and prices are controlled attracts the best? The US has free medicine in terms of the providers. Free in terms of freedom from you f**king socialists.

Cause health should be measured by the quality of doctors, not the overall health and lifespan of patients...

WAIT!

That's actually BACKWARDS. But hey, who cares!? Right?

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
100,000 people get killed in Iraq, they don't care

One poor woman is taken off life support...

Silly AH. When one poor woman dies, it's a tragedy. When 100,000 people die, it's a statistic.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
that is just bull****....i have NEVER EVER IN MY WHOLE LIFE heard of a patient with a strange decease that had to fly to the US to get treated because in the EU they couldnt...

Well of course. If they had a strange death, there would be no point to treating them here. Disease is an illness. Decease(d) is death.

[Q Classic]

What makes you think that socialized medicine where wages and prices are controlled attracts the best? The US has free medicine in terms of the providers. Free in terms of freedom from you f**king socialists.

Free as in freedom, not free as in beer. Of course, I vaguely recall you were briefly on the side of SCO against IBM, being against free as in freedom and free as in beer. That has nothing to do with this, though.

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Free as in freedom, yes. But that doesn't change the fact that the poor here do not have access to the best hospitals and medicine in the world; indeed, at best, they only have access to the average. Still better than, say, Mozambique, but not as good as say, Denmark.

As far as whether socialism is anti-freedom or not, I'd wager to say that aside from taxes, the Scandinavians live in some of the most free as in freedom societies in the world, and not so much in a free as in beer--those high taxes'll kill ya..

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Ned


We also have system with the likes of the ACLU where mentally ill people were once kept in institutions. But thanks our wonderful ACLU, those so mentally ill or sick (drug addicted) that they cannot fend for themselves are left to wander the streets and get by as best they can. Hence, crime, prostitution and homelessness abound on the streets of our cities.

Come again?

Are you saying that the ACLU kick out the mentally ill from the institutions? Can I have proof?

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap


Cause health should be measured by the quality of doctors, not the overall health and lifespan of patients...

WAIT!

That's actually BACKWARDS. But hey, who cares!? Right?

GePap, as I have repeatedly said, I support giving basic health insurance to all.

What I oppose is a government takeover of medicine.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
As far as whether socialism is anti-freedom or not, I'd wager to say that aside from taxes, the Scandinavians live in some of the most free as in freedom societies in the world, and not so much in a free as in beer--those high taxes'll kill ya..

Freedom means freedom from the government. One does not have freedom if one's wages are controlled by the government.

I can envision a system where everyone is provided health insurance without a government takeover of medicine. The problem is that most Europeans are socialists and cannot abide private enterprise in any form. So I hardly think that European medicine is first rate because I assume (but do not know for certain) that European medicine is "socialist" medicine.