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  • #76
    Quintius Fabius Maximus, Cunctator

    an old drinking buddy of mine.
    Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
    Japher: "crap, did I just post in this thread?"
    "Bloody hell, Lefty.....number one in my list of persons I have no intention of annoying, ever." Bugs ****ing Bunny
    From a 6th grader who readily adpated to internet culture: "Pay attention now, because your opinions suck"

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    • #77

      I have never heard of this Fabianism stuff but I kinda like it.


      It's essentially a British form of socialism... but it found favour in Australia as well (as many things British tended to do). It sits well with British political culture... being a "new wine in old bottles", and an evolutionary, approach to political change.

      Conservatism (in its current, over exaggerated, xenophobic reactionary form) was considered a JOKE back in the 40s, and 50s. But these guys spent the next 40 years slowly building up their infrastructure. Now they own the damn place. People turn to Rush Limbaugh for guidance, and can count on squashing the opposition by simply charging people with being unpatriotic. It's an insidious system, but it works, even against traditional safeguards like the media.


      I heard that the New Right was founded by the younger supporters of the Goldwater campaign in '64, who appropriated the tactics and the energetic idealism of the New Left. Up until the Goldwater campaign, the Republicans were selecting monied up northerners like Rockefeller, weren't they?

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      • #78
        Yes, I think they made the switch to turn down the South back to Republicans some time around 69. Oerdin is familiar with this particular history line.
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #79
          t all depends on how you define "communist". I belive the word is tainted by the atrocities commited by various dictators. Therefore I wouldn´t label myself "communist".
          That's why I'm not a Catholic

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Ted Striker
            Yes, I think they made the switch to turn down the South back to Republicans some time around 69. Oerdin is familiar with this particular history line.
            Nixon's "southern strategy"?

            The south was probably already fairly sick of the Dems by then I'd say... given JFK's initiation of and LBJ's signature on the Civil Rights Act.

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            • #81
              Wait, did you committ a sin!?!
              A sin?
              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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              • #82
                Ben is the biggest sinner among sinners!!!



                Just kidding
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #83
                  Tonight wasn't that stellar for my image.
                  Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                  "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                  2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                  • #84
                    avatars have a strange effect on my perception of posters here....

                    My mental image of what Ted looks like is Jon Stewart... for Ben it's an old british guy, for Agathon its Che Guevara and I picture Lefty as some crazy old bearded guy.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                      Quintius Fabius Maximus, Cunctator
                      The dirty bastard! Hur hur hur.
                      The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


                        The dirty bastard! Hur hur hur.
                        He achieved fame during the 2nd Punic War. They called him the "Hesitant"... but it turned out to be a virtue. He watched and nipped at Hannibal as he spent his force marching around southern Italy pillaging and killing, without touching Rome.

                        He opposed Scipio's campaign on Carthage... which won the war... perhaps he was too hesitant in that case.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Dracon II
                          I heard that the New Right was founded by the younger supporters of the Goldwater campaign in '64, who appropriated the tactics and the energetic idealism of the New Left. Up until the Goldwater campaign, the Republicans were selecting monied up northerners like Rockefeller, weren't they?
                          Yes, and then more recently they gained favor in the Reagan administration.
                          Last edited by Kidlicious; June 12, 2005, 08:55.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • #88
                            The anarchist horde farts in this thread's general direction.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • #89
                              I heard that the New Right was founded by the younger supporters of the Goldwater campaign in '64, who appropriated the tactics and the energetic idealism of the New Left. Up until the Goldwater campaign, the Republicans were selecting monied up northerners like Rockefeller, weren't they?


                              In lot of ways, more akin to the old left actually. The new Republican movement developed a message infrastructure (which has come to fruition in terms of all those right wing think tanks and radio stations) and grass roots funding and contact through mechanisms such as direct mail, that the Democrats have been losing in the last 60 years due to the gradual abandoment of labor rights, and thus trade unionism in this country.

                              Then there's the Southern Strategy, of course. Goldwater had opposed the Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                              -Bokonon

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Ramo
                                The anarchist horde farts in this thread's general direction.
                                You have a horde?
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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