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  • #76
    Overall I have mixed feelings on adult prostitution.

    There is part of me that sees it little different than when a hire out the use of my services on a certain basis and for a set fee. If a person wants to sell oral sex as a service, why should they not have that right?? Who am I to say who's cheney someone else may or may not inhale??

    But that is an ideal where women are free and able to make free choice .... In far too many cases they are not free and I'm never sure where you draw the line. One woman is a slave and thats wrong. Another is completely impoverished and needs to do it to eat . . . that feels somewhat wrong. Another is lower middle class and does it because it can earn her more money for less time "worked" that any other job she can get-- my sympathy is waning. The last isvery educated and charges high rates and can earn a 6 figure income while being wined and dined in nice places-- not much sympathy .

    But I see the inconsistency of it. Leaving aside the enslaved or threatened woman . . . If it is ok for a woman that would otherwise earn say 60 K a to supplement that by prostitution, why is it not ok for a very poor woman to improve her lot as well? It feels less acceptable but should it??


    Some people say it is degrading and perhaps it is in many cases but I don't think it needs to be. A person could treat their sex worker with respect.

    If a person hires a cleaning lady, that person has to do all sorts of moderately unsavoury things (like cleaning crap)to earn a living but again you can treat them with respect.
    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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    • #77
      I think its better if prostitution is legal and regulated rather than have working girls at the mercy of criminals.
      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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      • #78
        have you seen the pornos where the girl is being face ****ed and has to vomit every little bit?

        you can't tell me that that, and a lot of other things that go on in porno and prostitution, should be a legit job

        JM
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        • #79
          regulation includes regulation of what practices are legal
          Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

          Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Jon Miller
            have you seen the pornos where the girl is being face ****ed and has to vomit every little bit?
            Nope I haven't and hope I never do.


            Originally posted by Jon Miller


            you can't tell me that that, and a lot of other things that go on in porno and prostitution, should be a legit job

            JM
            There are a lot of disgusting things that I agree should not be part of what I consider a legit job
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Flubber


              Or Canada's

              Prostitution is NOT illegal but communicating IN A PUBLIC PLACE for the purpose of priostitution is illegal as is being "found in " a common bawdy house (brothel)


              So in Canada, you must almost certainly break the law if you pick up a streetwalker or go to a massage parlour but break no laws at all if you call and book an escort.
              However, advertising the phone number for the escort is communicating in a public place....
              “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

              ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
                regulation includes regulation of what practices are legal
                So it's OK if the woman does it for free (no government in the bedroom!) but if the woman does it for money, it's illegal?

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                • #83
                  no, I support legalisation
                  Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                  Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                  • #84
                    I meant regulation of the different practices.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by pchang


                      However, advertising the phone number for the escort is communicating in a public place....
                      REALLY?? By whom ??

                      The problem with that conception is that there is a proof problem as to who placed the ad. Maybe the escort did herself and maybe not. Add in the complexity that many websites are hosted outside Canada and you face a ticklish jurisdictional problem. Plus lots of communication is on message boards where people are somewhat anonymous.

                      I am not aware of any Canadian prosecutions for advertised escorts. are you??
                      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                      • #86
                        Quite a few of my clients are prostitutes. They are generally quite pathetic creatures, giving head "that's the street term for fellatio" to vice cops for 20 dollars. For the most part, crack whores. I would rather it be legalized and reguated/taxed, maybe then these people could get some help for themselves, or at least force them to be std free.

                        I had one case set for trial

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Flubber


                          Nope I haven't and hope I never do.




                          There are a lot of disgusting things that I agree should not be part of what I consider a legit job
                          I didn't intend to see it either

                          JM
                          (buy honestly.. I have seen worse)
                          (at least in hentai)
                          Jon Miller-
                          I AM.CANADIAN
                          GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                          • #88
                            @ JM

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Oerdin
                              I'm just kind of baffled how so many relatively well off young ladies (compared to neighboring countries) are going in to such a dirty, degrading, and dangerous business.
                              Cuz you can make better money prostetuting, guh!
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Flubber


                                I won't dipute you that that may be the case in most situations. I just know that I work about a block from the high end stroll in Calgary and I have seen the working girls pull up in rather fancy vehicles and they wear rather elaborate outfits . Whether these things are theirs or if some pimp is involved, I have no idea.

                                Apparently there is another phenomenon I have heard about. Apparently a LOT of the streetwalkers in Calgary come out from Vancouver on a regular basis, flying here for "work". I found that odd but apparently Vancouver has so very many girls that its too competitive. This could be an economic factor since Calgary generally is beeter off so fewer girls see the need to go into this "business"
                                Just because say, one percent of female prostitutes are well off with their "occupation" does not mean this justifies what is, in most other cases, inherently sexist and exploitative of poor people by better-off "customers."
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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