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  • #61
    Originally posted by Master Zen


    But you didn't have THREE battles going on at the same time.
    You understand the awesomeness that is the Battle of Endor.
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    • #62
      My high school history teacher used to talk about the metaphors in the Battle of Endor and Vietnam.
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      • #63
        Besides the Ewoks, nobody ever comes up with a legitimate complaint about Return of the Jedi.




        Seeing as how the Ewoks compose a pretty good portion of the movie, I'd say that's a pretty big complaint. They are in RotJ faaaar more than Jar Jar in TPM.

        It's like saying the only complaint against ESB was Cloud City (if someone complained about).
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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        • #64
          Frankly, it doesn't surprise me in the least bit that the Ewoks won over the stormtroopers, because the stormtroopers are ****ing idiots.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            Besides the Ewoks, nobody ever comes up with a legitimate complaint about Return of the Jedi.




            Seeing as how the Ewoks compose a pretty good portion of the movie, I'd say that's a pretty big complaint. They are in RotJ faaaar more than Jar Jar in TPM.

            It's like saying the only complaint against ESB was Cloud City (if someone complained about).

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Besides the Ewoks, nobody ever comes up with a legitimate complaint about Return of the Jedi.




              Seeing as how the Ewoks compose a pretty good portion of the movie, I'd say that's a pretty big complaint. They are in RotJ faaaar more than Jar Jar in TPM.

              It's like saying the only complaint against ESB was Cloud City (if someone complained about).
              My complaint against ESB is the lack of grandiose-ness compared to most other SW movies. Other than the lightsaber duel (which other than the "I am your father" bit, is not as good as the one in RotJ), there is no definitive, heart-stopping megabattle to decide the fate of the galaxy.

              Given that grandioseness is a hallmark of the SW franchise, I'd say it's a quite valid reason of putting RotJ ahead of ESB in my book.
              A true ally stabs you in the front.

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              • #67
                Want another reason?
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                • #68
                  Once again, you are completely wrong. Padme PWNS Leia.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Besides the Ewoks, nobody ever comes up with a legitimate complaint about Return of the Jedi.




                    Seeing as how the Ewoks compose a pretty good portion of the movie, I'd say that's a pretty big complaint. They are in RotJ faaaar more than Jar Jar in TPM.

                    It's like saying the only complaint against ESB was Cloud City (if someone complained about).
                    ESB doesn't have a single scene that approaches the awesomeness of the Battle of Endor. The closest you come to a Space Battle is Han hiding in silly gigantic asteroid monsters' stomachs.

                    The first lightsaber duel between father and son is downright goofy in some ways. Like when Luke plunges to his death and then there's an oh-so-convenient slide that he tumbles down.

                    Sure, ESB is good. But it should not be the sacred cow of the series.
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                    • #70
                      Whether you think Natalie Portman is hotter than Carrie Fisher is an entirely subjective and personal decision.

                      What you CAN'T argue is that Leia's golden bikini was a friggin pop culture phenomenon. There are entire web sites dedicated to the outfit 20 years after the movie came out. I truly doubt that 20 years ago any form of Padmé's wardrobe will be remembered that way.

                      Then if we are to compare the respective characters, Princess Leia is a much more complete, interesting and kick-ass character than Padmé. And much much better acted also.
                      A true ally stabs you in the front.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Master Zen
                        Whether you think Natalie Portman is hotter than Carrie Fisher is an entirely subjective and personal decision.

                        What you CAN'T argue is that Leia's golden bikini was a friggin pop culture phenomenon. There are entire web sites dedicated to the outfit 20 years after the movie came out. I truly doubt that 20 years ago any form of Padmé's wardrobe will be remembered that way.
                        "Oh! My uniform has been strategically ripped!"
                        "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Lord Nuclear
                          Once again, you are completely wrong. Padme PWNS Leia.
                          Oh and before I forget.... the MZO community thinks otherwise:



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                          • #73
                            Obviously, the community at MZO isn't very smart.

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                            • #74
                              Actually that chick in your avatar on that site is the mostist bonita-ist.
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                              • #75
                                Truth.
                                "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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