Do you think fleeing from your countries draft is immoral?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The war is immoral. Any war you have to lie in order to start is immoral on its face.

Say the US faked up an incident in order to get the US populace to support a DOW on Nazi Germany - what then?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
supporting a war that you refuse to volonteer for is also immoral because you send off others to do the dirty work for you.

No it's not.

[vovan]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Say the US faked up an incident in order to get the US populace to support a DOW on Nazi Germany - what then?

Doing wrong things for the right reason doesn't make them right, does it? If a government thinks its country must go to war, it is the government's obligation to explain to the people why that is the case, for, after all, does a government not exist to take care of its people? If it has no explanation to offer that would convince a reasonable person, then it is therefore wrong, for the simple reason that it is no longer supporting the interests of its people.

At least that's the theory. In practice, of course, there is the other argument that the government is there to look after the interests of its people because the people are too stupid to handle it themselves, and therefore, the opinion of the majority doesn't matter for it is uninformed and uneducated any way, so it is useless to try to convince the majority that what the government deems to be the right course of action is, indeed, so.

[Ben Kenobi]

Do you favour any wars?

I may be recalling incorrectly, but you certainly didn't seem opposed to the Iraq war.

Just because I'm conservative on some things doesn't make me conservative on all things.

I disagreed with the Iraqi war, and the war in Afghanistan. For that reason I wasn't inclined to defend those who argued for Iraq and Afghanistan, or for those who argued for Afghanistan and against Iraq.

[KrazyHorse]

Okay. Was just checking...

[boann]

no i don't think its immoral to refuse the draft.
if they were to reinstate the draft here.
i would do everything i could to help my son avoid it.
hes totally against war. and though my family has a long history of military service.. i would support him in his choice.

[Zkribbler]

Re: Do you think fleeing from your countries draft is immoral?

Originally posted by Vesayen
Is it immoral to flee the country to avoid a draft you do not agree with?

It is immoral to flee the country because you disagree with the draft. We are not citizens by smorgasbord, choosing the laws we live by.

However, fleeing the country because you disagree with the morality of the war is another matter. That is, it would be immoral to kill other people in support of a cause which you oppose.

It goes without saying that, if you oppose all wars, you should not be drafted.

[VonMises]

The draft is immoral because it assumes the state owns you and may do with you as it pleases.

[Lorizael]

Do you think fleeing from your countries draft is immoral?

No, but I think confusing pluralization and possessiveness is.

[self biased]

that's a remarkably astute statement coming from a spambot.

[Berzerker]

If you are in a country and it goes to war and a draft begins....

You are Joe Average Consumer and you are drafted.

The purpose of a state is to uphold the rights of the citizens, if you do not want to go to war, are your rights being trampled?

Yes, you have the right to sit out somebody else's war

Is it immoral to flee the country to avoid a draft you do not agree with?

if everybody did that there'd be no war...what a shame

[Ben Kenobi]

Given that it's Von Mises, someone made a DL.

OH, and DL

[N35t0r]

Personally, I prefer Tresca.

[Sava]

that's a remarkably astute statement coming from a spambot.

Indeed.

[Al B. Sure!]

Selective Service is part of the social contract we sign as (male) citizens of the United States. It's not about the state possessing your life. It's about holding up your end of the bargain to maintain the defense of the polity.