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  • I still can't believe it.
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    • Originally posted by Wezil
      Really? They have more power now than they are liable to receive in an election. Jack has control of Finance. Pretty good incentive.


      You may be right, but they don't have the numbers for a formal coalition, and even formal coalitions can be unstable. If the government last for another year, there's a good chance that Martin will again pander to the Conservatives first and ignore the NDP.
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      • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
        Did you keep up the fight on the 1812 thread until it got deleted, NYE?

        I woke up for 10 minutes around 2 am and saw you telling somebody that they "wouldn't know history if it bit them on the ass".

        That was about where it petered out before I left for the night. My comment was a bit more coloured than that, and may have contributed to the deletion.
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        • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
          Most political observers seem to feel that the Liberals are going to squeak this one out. They might not even have to go to the Speaker...

          Checking the CBC's "comments" page on this one seems to indicate that many of your fellow Albertans oppose the very idea of an MP switching sides.

          People don't vote for ****ing parties; they vote for individual candidates.

          Maybe they're just pissed off and will get over it.
          I agree people are putting too much on loyalty to party. What really shocks is that she crossed to what is viewed as the source of the corruption. To say some people are irate would be to say a hurricane is a breeze.

          The Liberals will also probably get another member from Labrador on May 24...
          That'll leave them one vote short when Kilgour and Cadman decide to agree that it is time for an election.
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          • Originally posted by St Leo
            Originally posted by Wezil
            Really? They have more power now than they are liable to receive in an election. Jack has control of Finance. Pretty good incentive.


            You may be right, but they don't have the numbers for a formal coalition, and even formal coalitions can be unstable. If the government last for another year, there's a good chance that Martin will again pander to the Conservatives first and ignore the NDP.
            More than a chance. The NDP simply cannot deliver a majority that can be counted on. Three days last week demonstrated that.
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            • Moot point. Martin's promised an election when Gomery's done.
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              • Does Gomery have a deadline that mandates he be done this year though? I've heard that he could go into next year, but I've seen a lot of bad reporting the last week.
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                • I was under the impression that he'd probably be done by the end of this year, beginning of next.

                  I suppose he could keep going after that, but it seems like an adequate timeframe.
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                  • wow

                    If Stronach wanted to REALLY show her convictions, she should have voted against the budget and then immediately upon the election call, THEN defected and faced the electorate after attempting to get the Liberal nomination.

                    It seems that her "principles" could have been better met by deciding to sit as an independent. Joinin ghr Liberals looks like a grab for influence and quite frankly another example of the Liberals bribing people to retain power
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                    • Why? Her electors sent her to Ottawa to represent them. The parties excercise all together too much power over our representatives, and then we gasp in disbelief when an MP excercises the one thing they have sole power over.

                      That being said, I think she is an opportunist who is sorely mistaken on what her future holds. She most likely has designs on the big chair in the PMO. That is finished now. She wouldn't be elected leader of a bottle drive, let alone the Liberal Party of Canada.
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                      • I have to scratch my head at something Deb Grey said today. Harper has been approached but has rebuffed Liberals who might want to cross the floor. Apparently, he doesn't believe in it.

                        What kind of democracy would we have if our MPs were slaves to party and couldn't bolt if the situation called for it?

                        My MP is my representative in Ottawa, he or she should not be a particular party's representative to me.
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                        • Also, I have to wonder... If the Conservatives are such a bad solution for Canada, why are scraps that fall off the Conservative table on the front bench of the Liberal government? What? There are no qualified Liberals?

                          I'd be really pissed if I were a Liberal back bencher who put in the time on committees and did everything required of me, but Brisson and Stronach are in my ****ing seat!
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                            • I have no words what she did here.

                              NYE, these are your pals here stabbing us in the back, your portion of the Conservative party.
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                              • I have to scratch my head at something Deb Grey said today. Harper has been approached but has rebuffed Liberals who might want to cross the floor. Apparently, he doesn't believe in it.
                                Don't be a fool Harper.

                                Let the 30 or 40 Liberals cross.
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