Whoi knew a bunch of Japanese textbook could cause such trouble?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MRT144
domino effect

It's real.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Boshko

You really should see the National War Memorial building here in Seoul, the propaganda is really hot and heavy, the brave Korean resistance forces drove out the evil Japanese invaders with only incidental (and barely-mentioned) American help...

As far as the Korean peninsula is concerned, they're right. Now, if you take into account the fact that it was only possible for them to do so because we defeated Japan, well, then, maybe they should have something mentioning us.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Frankychan


I'm sorry, but once I read this the rest of the post was meaningless. I mean, I understand that the atrocities committed by the Japanese army was horrible, but to use these slurs are just as disrespectable.

Let's not forget America's internment of Japanese-Americans ILLEGALLY.

Bigotry----->

Its not a slur to everyone. Lancer was using it like "brits" or "yanks".

And as far as I know, every allied country interned minorities during ww2. I know Canada did at least.

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by mindseye
This is a worrisome intersection of nationalism and racism. Few Chinese have ever met a Japanese, yet many (and increasingly more) will openly and unabashedly declare that they hate the Japanese. Not object to their history books, but HATE all Japanese people.

Hehe, I recognize this. One of my Chinese friends can't say anything positive about a Japanese person/product/etc without first stating something like "you know how much I hate the Japanese, but..."

[DanS]

Originally posted by mindseye
Sadly, racism seems to be becoming increasingly fashionable of late in China.

Today there was a large-scale anti-Japanese protest in Beijing which was broken up by riot police (no tanks, this time - it was a gov't-approved protest).

Several other cities (Chongqing, Shenzhen) have had violent protests recently which, like today's in Beijing, involved attacks on Japanese businesses.

There is an anti-Japanese on-line petition making the rounds in China, now boasting between twenty and thirty gajillion signatures urging the gov't to take sterner measures against Japan.

Even normal, middle-class white collars in Shanghai are now getting excited about boycotting Japanese goods.

This is a worrisome intersection of nationalism and racism. Few Chinese have ever met a Japanese, yet many (and increasingly more) will openly and unabashedly declare that they hate the Japanese. Not object to their history books, but HATE all Japanese people.

Beijing has in the past fanned the anti-Japanese hysteria, but is now showing some signs of concern over their Frankenstien's monster. A massive on-line petition and riots against Japan are one thing, but what happens the next time another "BMW Killer" story excites the Chinese SMS network?

It's ironic that when westerners bring up human rights/Tibet/Taiwan/etc, one of the most common Chinese arguments is: "that is an internal Chinese affair, foreigners should butt out!" Yet it seems this does not apply to internal Japanese decisions about textbooks.

BMW killer?

[DaShi]

Government-encouraged racism.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Reducing protests is irrelevent if it doesn't lead to an increase in the amount of concrete support the boondoggle would get

I don't think it is irrelevent at all, at least not in terms of long term foriegn policy where it'd be better to have somewhat friendly European countries as opposed to highly skeptical European countries.

It's idealistic to expect govts to be accountable for their human rights violations instead of creating diversions?

Yes. And it's obvious. Try living in the real world and you'll see why.

Basically anything to help a state (no matter how ****ed up the state is) remain and increase it's power is thumbs up to you because that's practical.

I'm still trying to figure out how you came up with this sentence (and if anyone other than you understands it) and if you understand why people look at practical solutions (ie, they work). Practicality gets things done (that's kind of what the word means).

Actually eating babies is not practical because it's illegal, hence highly impractical, unless you like prision .

Imran, I take it that you're one of those who think that the Arab dictators fear America more now that its budget has been bled dry and its forces overstretched?

I think Arab dictators now realize that the US won't turn a blind eye. That seems to have changed some of their behaviors.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by mindseye
Sadly, racism seems to be becoming increasingly fashionable of late in China.

Not just China.

I've noticed in East Asia, or at least the places I have visited, that there is a general lack of awareness about why racism is wrong. There is flagrant discrimination everywhere.

The Japanese are notoriously racist, posting signs at businesses saying no foreigners allowed.

In Hong Kong, foreigners can become citizens after living here for seven years, except for those who are working here as maids.

Bars here let white people in for free while charging other people cover charges.

Meanwhile the Hong Kong government maintains there is no discrimination here (the colonial government did the same).

And the foreigners in Hong Kong can be as racist as the locals.

[Bosh]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


As far as the Korean peninsula is concerned, they're right. Now, if you take into account the fact that it was only possible for them to do so because we defeated Japan, well, then, maybe they should have something mentioning us.

Because the Korean resistance was on the verge of driving the Japanese army out of the Korea at the end of WWII Korea probably gave the Japanese less problems than any other group they conquered with the possible exception of the Taiwanese.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Tingkai
The Japanese are notoriously racist, posting signs at businesses saying no foreigners allowed.

That probably just meant "No Asians." Whites are fine.

Originally posted by Tingkai
In Hong Kong, foreigners can become citizens after living here for seven years, except for those who are working here as maids.

I don't think that has anything to do with racism, though.

[Bosh]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I don't think that has anything to do with racism, though.

Poor Pinays

[Urban Ranger]

Huh?

[Bosh]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Huh?

What is the ethnicity of the bulk of the maids in Hong Kong?

[Urban Ranger]

Chinese

[Dracon II]

My girlfriend is from Nanjing... and, predictably, has a knee-jerk distaste for Japan and Japanese culture. But even she said that the riots were irresponsible.

Its kind of sad really... 16 years ago the Chinese were demonstrating for something meaningful... political reform. But I guess the only kind of demonstration that the Government approves of is the kind we've been seeing; nationalist rallies of youths venting their (understandable) anger on Japan.

.... at least they won't get massacred for that.