Whoi knew a bunch of Japanese textbook could cause such trouble?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Change that to govts criticising each other to divert attention away from their own crimes and the answer is yes.

If the criticism is valid, then I don't think that's a bad thing. Then the country who is the target can point to the accuser's abuses. Countries very rarely point the finger at themselves. The best system is where we encourage everyone to tattle on everyone else .

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


If the criticism is valid, then I don't think that's a bad thing. Then the country who is the target can point to the accuser's abuses. Countries very rarely point the finger at themselves. The best system is where we encourage everyone to tattle on everyone else .

Who should the Chinese fear the most the Japanese or their own govt? What good is propaganda designed against the Japanese?

[DinoDoc]

Would a mod please fix the thread title?

[Az]

If the criticism is valid, then I don't think that's a bad thing.

You don't see governments using foreign enemies as diversion from their own flaws as a bad thing?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Az

If the criticism is valid, then I don't think that's a bad thing.

You don't see governments using foreign enemies as diversion from their own flaws as a bad thing?

Not particularly. It's been happening since history began. As long as it is a free flow from both sides andt he criticism is valid, we can make it work for us.

Who should the Chinese fear the most the Japanese or their own govt? What good is propaganda designed against the Japanese?

Like the Communist government will even let that happen? Its best to let people from outside push the flaws of the Chinese government, because if you try, you're dead because not many are agreeing with you.

[Az]

Not particularly.

You're a funny little man, Imran.

It's been happening since history began.

Ooh, that's a winning argument.

As long as it is a free flow from both sides andt he criticism is valid, we can make it work for us.

I am not talking about "how to be an evil scheming machiavellian bastard and serve the interests of the empire". I am talking about right and wrong. You know, those outdated concepts.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Kidicious

What good is propaganda designed against the Japanese?

What propaganda against the Japanese?

The propaganda being spewed these days comes from Japan. The Japanese are teaching their children that they were the victims during WWII. Japanese children grow up to believe that the US forced Japan to fight and that the US was evil because the US dropped the bomb on the poor innocent Japanese who never did nothing to hurt anyone.

[Last Conformist]

Regarding the thread title, what else would one expect of Japanese history textbooks?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Az
I am not talking about "how to be an evil scheming machiavellian bastard and serve the interests of the empire". I am talking about right and wrong. You know, those outdated concepts.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Tingkai
What propaganda against the Japanese?

The propaganda being spewed these days comes from Japan. The Japanese are teaching their children that they were the victims during WWII. Japanese children grow up to believe that the US forced Japan to fight and that the US was evil because the US dropped the bomb on the poor innocent Japanese who never did nothing to hurt anyone.

Propaganda goes both ways and every nation does it. It doesn't make it good or moral.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Az
I am not talking about "how to be an evil scheming machiavellian bastard and serve the interests of the empire". I am talking about right and wrong. You know, those outdated concepts.

Right and wrong are outdated concepts . It always depends on your point of view. Oh wow... a country is talking about VALID abuses of another country, perhaps to hide the view from its own, that's sooo bad! Why should I care? As long as both countries are doing it, both countries' abuses are shown, and that's far better than if the countries were trying to look within themselves (and try harder to hide their abuses).

Ah, idealistic idiots who want to talk about 'right' and 'wrong' even though their connection to reality is tenuous at best. No wonder you never get anywhere .

[Az]

Why should I care?

Because the alternate behaviour is the international equivalent of psychopathy, which may suit you just fine, I guess.

Ah, idealistic idiots who want to talk about 'right' and 'wrong' even though their connection to reality is tenuous at best. No wonder you never get anywhere .

Yeah, the theories of "right and wrong" sure failed in the large scheme of things.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If you lived in the real world, you'd know that the way to do things is practically, not idealistically. With idealism, you get Bush's foriegn policy.

And 'right' and 'wrong' are highly subjective, so some people may believe that we are headed very wrongly and 'right' has failed as society gets more liberal (such as Ben, etc). It's a nice opiate of the masses though .

[Lancer]

During the Japanese occupation of the Philippines the Japs would randomly start hacking at passerby with their swords just to test the sharpness. Many Filipinas were raped, in fact today the Japanese advertise on local TV in my little town of Jagna on Bohol island for girls to become 'dancing girls' in Japan. The Japs fly them over, train them and put them in strip clubs where they are preasured into prostitution. The girls aren't forced to it as in WW2, except economicly they sometimes have little choice if the like to eat. I wanted to put an advertisement on the same TV chanel explaining what 'dancing girls' would end up doing, but people explained to me that the girls already know, they hate to do it, but they have little option.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
If you lived in the real world, you'd know that the way to do things is practically, not idealistically. With idealism, you get Bush's foriegn policy.

Have you seen the light and realized that Neo-conservatism is bollocks?