I feel slightly less pathetic!

[Elok]

I am twenty-one freaking years old, and just asked a girl out and got a yes for the first time in my life. Yes, that's sad, but it's a personal triumph! And she's fairly cute, and intelligent, and has a great sense of humor.

I'm still sort of in shock, TBH. I'm broke, but so is she, so we have agreed on a sort of pathetic hobo's date at the dining hall tonight. It's a start, dagnabit. Right?

Wow. That was actually remarkably easy. You just have to find a girl who's worth knowing, will have you, and isn't spoken for. That there is the hard part.

Whee. Okay, I guess that's it from me. Carry on.

[MRT144]

good **** man. now remember to wrap your willy before the ole in out, in out.

[KrazyHorse]

[Gibsie]

Turns out the only girl from my workplace that's worth knowing does indeed have a boyfriend. He's like her 40 year-old driving instructor. Damnit, I thought I'd found a girl with those two glorious qualities: beauty and low self esteem.

[Flubber]

Good show . . . getting the confidence to ask is usually the hardest part . . . since once you start asking and get a few acceptances under your belt, it doesn;t seem like a problem.

I was painfully shy in my teens when it came to girls ( but still managed a few dates) -- Finallly I just basically said to hell with it and asked anyone I liked. Rejection was pretty uncommon. There were lots of girls I only dated once but most will give you at least a one date tryout if you approach them somewhat normally.

Don't sweat the lack of funds. If she likes you its irrelevant and if you needed money to get her, she's not worth your time.

[Az]

Wow. That was actually remarkably easy. You just have to find a girl who's worth knowing, will have you, and isn't spoken for. That there is the hard part.

I am sorry if it's blindingly obvious, but... DUH.

[Pekka]

Yes, this is good news! Well, I assume you haven't asked girls out before a lot. They say yes fairly often, if you just ask. Remember the 50/50 rule. It's going to be yes or no. 50/50. Take your chances. If it's a no, hey, it was 50/50.. you can't win them all. The fear of rejection and personal humiliation doing it is a big obstacle for many needy men. You see, you just got to go with it. Not get upset about it. It's all math anyway. The more you ask, chances of someone saying yes ALWAYS increases. Every time, bigger chance. THat's just a fact right there. SO go.. serial ask girls out. Then again, in some cases there's always no . But then again, those dudes are RARE and mostly very, very sad individuals.

[Dinner]

Good job man. You know if you ask more women out you'd likely get more yes anwsers. Or at least more then not asking would get you.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Good job man. You know if you ask more women out you'd likely get more yes anwsers. Or at least more then not asking would get you.

The probabilities are blindingly obvious but the reality is that lots of folks that are great at math never realize that your batting average is always zero if you never take a swing.


Pekka-- the guys who get "no" a lot usually fall in one or more of these groups

1. Going for the unattainable-- If jessica Sportslover only dates the football team then your chances are low unless you are on that team

2. Appearing too desparate/needy--

3. The truly butt ugly/creepy -- but even these folks date-- just accept that you will not be dating the prom queen in all liklihood

4. being an ass-- Guys who are so busy trying to look "cool' that they look like an ass. I've been amazed how a simple approach usually works.

[Ben Kenobi]

Indeed. Why do you think I went for Denise?

Although I think I did too good a job at raising her self-esteem. :

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Flubber
1. Going for the unattainable-- If jessica Sportslover only dates the football team then your chances are low unless you are on that team

i find this one rampant among my more nerdy friends who talk **** about girls based on looks but at the same time have never even been laid once in their life. It strikes me as odd that these intellectual elite are also the most shallow, chauvinist *******s ive met.

They think that because they are very intelligent and academicly successful they automaticly are babe magnets and shouldnt settle for less than the top 10% of girls. what they dont realize is that academics and intelligence are not charisma and that there is an intangible that keeps them from getting girls.

[Kontiki]

I think it's more likely just showboating. They probably realize that they're virginal geeks, but compensate by saying that they'd only go for the drop dead gorgeous girls. In reality, they'd probably go for just about anyone that showed some interest in them.

[Az]

But then again, those dudes are RARE and mostly very, very sad individuals.

I am on my way to finland to kick your ass.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Kontiki
I think it's more likely just showboating. They probably realize that they're virginal geeks, but compensate by saying that they'd only go for the drop dead gorgeous girls. In reality, they'd probably go for just about anyone that showed some interest in them.

its stupid though and doesnt fool anyone. I really believe in their heart of hearts they believe that they deserve the beautiful girls. I know that one of my friends has had several opportunities to not be a virginal geek and he hasnt hopped on it because he doesnt think the girls are hot enough.

hell, i know i havent had sex with the most beautiful girls in the world but i think ive done alright by myself.

[Jon Miller]

some aren't going just for sex

Jon Miller
(I know I am not, I am looking for Love and haven't found it yet)