CanPol: Gomery and a Looming Federal Election

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Kontiki


So it's a mark of courage and honour to vote for a either a party that would take a massive leftward lurch

If the left lurch is what you want. I assume this is true of NDP supporters yet they voted Liberal b/c they werte afraid of Conservatives.

or one that would unquestioningly take us to war in Iraq,

We supported the war, just not publicly. We increased troops to Afghanistan to free up US troops, we sent ships to the Gulf and we had Cdn military personell embedded in US units. Only the naive believe we didn't play a role.

cut social services

Link? Tell me what they want to cut. There is plenty of room to do that in this socialist utopia...

and has a large and extemely vocal component that's quite socially conservative?

That were not enough to direct policy - see the party convention.

[Richelieu]

Looks like we have a good chance at another minority government next time around. Only this time it might be a conservative one.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Richelieu
Looks like we have a good chance at another minority government next time around. Only this time it might be a conservative one.

Whom would the Conservatives ally with? They can't partner with the Liberals because of the scandal, and a Bloc-Conservative alliance wouldn't last long.

[Tingkai]

A corrupt Liberal government is still better than an idiotic Conservative government. Besides, the last conservative government was so corrupt that what the Liberals may have done is just child's play in comparison.

[Max Webster]

After Mulroney, Harris, Eves. And I don't like or trust Harper. I doubt I will be voting conservative anytime soon.

The conservatives have alot of good ideas, but like their southern counterparts they are a bunch of a$$holes.

[Ben Kenobi]

Seems to me if they got a lot of good ideas, someone who's not an idealogue would vote for them, and they ought to be considered.

Certainly puts them a notch above the Liberals who have had 10 years to do something meaningful.

[Ben Kenobi]

Whom would the Conservatives ally with?

Why do they need a various flavour of leftish to ally with?

Grab the reins and take it all themselves. Why should federalists in Quebec vote for the Liberals?

[KrazyHorse]

Because we're not conservatives.

[Ben Kenobi]

And you represent the majority if Quebecois federalistes?

[Max Webster]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Seems to me if they got a lot of good ideas, someone who's not an idealogue would vote for them, and they ought to be considered.

Because once they get in I'm scared of the stuff they will try to do.

On a provincial level Harris gutted our Hospitals and Schools.

[Max Webster]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Grab the reins and take it all themselves.

Its harder to get things done when your a minority. You need the other parties to vote for you to help pass your bills.

[Ben Kenobi]

Education and health care are managed provincially.

Its harder to get things done when your a minority. You need the other parties to vote for you to help pass your bills.

Who's talking minority?

12 years of Liberal rule is enough.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Max Webster

On a provincial level Harris gutted our Hospitals and Schools.

And with a $800 per head health tax and delisting of services Sick Kids hospitals in the province are on the verge of sending patients stateside. Good thing MCGuinty and the Liberals fixed things.

Your problem was not with Harris but rather with Martin. The feds cut transfers to the provinces which resulted in a health crisis across the country.

[Max Webster]

Whether provincial or federal, conservatives are cut from the same cloth.

Hell it don't matter for me. My riding always goes conservative on the federal level anyways. It doesn't matter what I vote.

I agree its time for a change. But I bet the conservatives will never get a majority with Harper and his ties to the alliance. Conservatives were better off by themselves with ole goofy clark.

[Wezil]

Except Clark was, and still is, a philosophical Liberal.