What are your thoughts on the new minuteman border patrol?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Did I say that? (no)

I was pointing to your hypocrisy. This people are trying to better their lives, and preventing them from crossing a line is immoral. So you should hold these people up as heros, but you consider them the scum of the earth.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Wycoff
You can call me a racist if you'd like. I learned long ago that the label "racist" is used by social liberals as a way to demonize those who disagree with them, just as laissez-faire capitalists use the terms "communist/socialist" to demonize anyone supporting any limitation on business. The labels are used so frequently that they are rendered meaningless. Thus, I take no offense to your name-calling. I don't deny that some who seek stricter immigration enforcement do so for primarily racist reasons. However, I vehemently disagree with the idea that anyone who demands stricter border enforcement is inherently racist.

I admit that I use the term 'racist' looser than most people, so you shouldn't be offended. I consider most people racist, because I think it's human nature. Actually, maybe bigot is a better word to use. I don't think it really has to do with racism, but more to do with economic competition. Workers here in the States want to hoard all the jobs and resources, and those who they want to exclude just happen to be Mexican.

[Dis]

the goverment is now assigning 500 border patrol agents to the Arizona region, possibly because of this minuteman group.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050330-125346-1389r.htm

[Joseph]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What are your thoughts on the new minuteman border patrol?

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


In remitences from illegal aliens or total trade?

Illegal, green cards, etc. Not trade.

[Dinner]

It appears the minuteman has had a positive effect in that it has drawen so much attention to this problem that the federal government has had to add 500 additional border patrol agents.

We really need to get to the heart of the matter by fining the companies that hire illegal workers with fines so huge that it starts to bankrupt companies. We need to signal that the status quo no longer works and we're going to go after the cheap bastards who are hiring illegals to save costs. The illegals themselves need to be punished more severly in order to discourage such criminal activity. Lastly in stead of just dropping illegals off at the border (where they just try again) we need to drop them off by ship in southern Mexico so they have to walk 1000 miles if they want to try again. That will discourage repeat offenders.

Lastly we need to revise the visa program so that more workers can be let in legally. Anyone who has previously commited a crime in the US or has been an illegal alien should be disbared for life from ever holding a US visa and punishment for repeat offenders should be jail time.

[Verto]

Originally posted by Oerdin
It appears the minuteman has had a positive effect in that it has drawen so much attention to this problem that the federal government has had to add 500 additional border patrol agents.

We really need to get to the heart of the matter by fining the companies that hire illegal workers with fines so huge that it starts to bankrupt companies. We need to signal that the status quo no longer works and we're going to go after the cheap bastards who are hiring illegals to save costs. The illegals themselves need to be punished more severly in order to discourage such criminal activity. Lastly in stead of just dropping illegals off at the border (where they just try again) we need to drop them off by ship in southern Mexico so they have to walk 1000 miles if they want to try again. That will discourage repeat offenders.

Lastly we need to revise the visa program so that more workers can be let in legally. Anyone who has previously commited a crime in the US or has been an illegal alien should be disbared for life from ever holding a US visa and punishment for repeat offenders should be jail time.

OMFG OERDIN IS A RACIST WHO HATES POOR PEOPLE WHAT A RACIST

On a serious note,

[Dis]

what, am I on everyone's ignore list? I already posted this news. .

[Verto]

Can someone tell me what Diss is going on about? I have him ignored.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Verto


Since the number of illegal immigrants crossing into the US from the Canadian border even comes close to that occurring at the US-Mexico border.

Yeah, it's usually americans fleeing to Canada at the north border.

[Verto]

They should be shot, thrown from helicopters, and then shot once more to ensure their treason is extinguished.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Verto
Can someone tell me what Diss is going on about? I have him ignored.

He posted something, then Oerdin posted that same thing.

[Seeker]

But we like Oerdin better, so now Dissident is *****ing.

[DRoseDARs]

@ stupid vigilantes
This would be an instance where I'd support the use of beartraps

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBY05C257E.html
Border Patrol Complains That Volunteers Are Tripping Sensors Used to Detect Illegal Crossers

By Arthur H. Rotstein Associated Press Writer
Published: Apr 4, 2005

TOMBSTONE, Ariz. (AP) - Volunteers who have converged on the Mexican border to watch for illegal immigrants are disrupting U.S. Border Patrol operations by unwittingly tripping sensors that alert agents to possible intruders, an agency spokesman complained Monday.

Scores of participants in the Minuteman Project began assembling late last week and planned to begin regular patrols on Monday, in an exercise some law enforcement authorities and civil rights groups fear will result in vigilante violence. Many of the volunteers were recruited over the Internet, and some planned to be armed.

Over the past few days, they have set off sensors, forcing agents to respond to false alarms, said Supervisory Border Patrol Agent Jose Maheda.

"Every sensor has to be addressed," Maheda said. "It's taken away from our normal operations."

The volunteers planned to start fanning out Monday across 23 miles of the San Pedro Valley to watch the border and report any illegal activity to federal agents.

The idea, according to project organizers, is partly to draw attention to problems on the Arizona-Mexico border, considered the most porous stretch of the 2,000-mile southern border. Of the 1.1 million illegal immigrants caught by the Border Patrol last year, 51 percent crossed into the country at the Arizona border.

Jim Coniglio of Tucson, who plans to patrol with other volunteers this week, said residents in some areas of the border have complained of being "overrun routinely" by migrants. "They're feeling insecure," he said.

The Border Patrol opposes the operation. "The possibility for something going drastically wrong is very high," Maheda said.

AP-ES-04-04-05 1515EDT

[Kidlicious]

These guys will return home before the end of the week.

[Dis]

notice they are doing this when the weather is cool. The border patrol has to do this all summer long.