What are your thoughts on the new minuteman border patrol?

[Wycoff]

Reagan

[Imran Siddiqui]

Reagan

[Dis]

Reagan

though I admit I liked him at the time. But I also liked Madonna back then. It's okay to like stupid things when you are young.

On the surface he was a great president. But when you hear about some of the lesser known things he has done.

[Dinner]

He was very anti-union and that is for sure. A country needs a balance between labor and management because if one side becomes to strong then society suffers. To much labor control and businesses die; to much management control and people live like serfs.

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Oerdin
He was very anti-union and that is for sure. A country needs a balance between labor and management because if one side becomes to strong then society suffers. To much labor control and businesses die; to much management control and people live like serfs.

We're on an agreement streak today, Oerdin.

[Ned]

Oerdin, et al., who view Mexican immigrants in terms of union busting, why does the Democrat Party support illegal immigration?

[Dis]

Originally posted by Ned
Oerdin, et al., who view Mexican immigrants in terms of union busting, why does the Democrat Party support illegal immigration?

because it's not PC to be against it.

[Ned]

Does this force the pro-American worker types into the Independent Party who have a hard line against illegal immigration?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ned
Oerdin, et al., who view Mexican immigrants in terms of union busting, why does the Democrat Party support illegal immigration?

Simple. They want Latino votes the same as Republicans. Politicians are whores for votes and there isn't a nob they won't polish if there are enough votes in it. The goal should be to end illegal immigration and move everyone into the legal path so that the government knows who is entering the country and what they're moving through our borders. That's just a matter of national security.

We need to fine businesses which use illegal labor to death so that we can make an example out of them and we need to at least triple the amount of Border Patrol and other law enforcement at the borders in order to prevent the illegal activity. We then need to redouble our efforts into streamlining the legal immigration system so that people can be processed quickly and easily once it is determined they fit the legal guidelines.

Lastly every thing needs to change to make it easier to track down and catch illegal aliens. No more free government services for them (in order to encourage them to become legal immigraints instead of staying illegal), national ID cards are needed which clearly say a persons legal status and the date they're legal till, and the laws need to change to support national security. Currently a police officer can't ask a person if they are here illegally nor can a teacher. That's just insane. Every part of the government should be in the business of supporting the law.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Wycoff


We're on an agreement streak today, Oerdin.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Wycoff




Heard of the MS-13s?

Mara-savuchra or something like that..no I didnt googlize or even finish reading the whole thread, just sharing we have them here in Eastern North Carolina my son is on our Sheriff's Office SWAT and Warrant Squad and they are showing up quicker than people can adjust to..

I heard of them first while preparing to do Missions work for my Lord in Honduras where they took action against police depatments whom targeted their operations

Gangs of New York or Gangs of El Salvador-Honduras and Mexico

Extorting their own people

Mafioso=Italian immigrants

China has the Triad

Gramps

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Dissident
Reagan

though I admit I liked him at the time. But I also liked Madonna back then. It's okay to like stupid things when you are young.

On the surface he was a great president. But when you hear about some of the lesser known things he has done.

Yay Dissident!

Raygun was teh Evil.

[Grandpa Troll]

Oh and as for the minteman deal..I think its opening a Pandora box

Like mentioned earlier in the thread, the govt loves collecting the taxes and have illegal immigrants do jobs some native Americans wont

However This will, in my opinion allow the govt to come back and say either

1) the minuteman program was wrong now we need more money to properly train additional forces

or

2) it good but it dont go far enough

remember William Bennet, the Drug Czar?

President Bush wanted to have a great announcement and in an interview in the Washington D C Paper, the police tried to get a dealer to deal drugs on the front of the White House on Pennsylvannia Avenue, but the dealer they chose well, he told the undercover cop he didnt know where no white house was and finally had to be picked up dropped off and then the whole deal came undone..all to prove how evil drugs are and why the taxpayers needed to fund this new program Bennet was heading up

I say that the minutemen program may have good roots but this will turn into a vigilante service, even on a small scale and thats not correct.

just my $0.02 worth

Gramps

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Ned
Does this force the pro-American worker types into the Independent Party who have a hard line against illegal immigration?

Sometimes, hence the large amount of support garnered by Perot in 1992. It also often results in voter apathy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The goal should be to end illegal immigration

Open borders!

He was very anti-union and that is for sure.

If he wasn't, we'd have unions which would be way too powerful (think MLBPA or Teachers' Unions, but in most workplaces).