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  • Media Matters For America to the rescue again!

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    • Originally posted by DinoDoc

      Misleading? Both graphs say the same thing, mindseye.
      You don't see a different message?

      The visual impact of the relative bar size overwhelms the cognitive impact from reading the data labels (for those that bother to do so).
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      • Originally posted by mindseye
        You don't see a different message?
        No.
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        • Originally posted by DinoDoc
          Misleading? Both graphs say the same thing, mindseye.
          One makes it look visually, as if liberals are far from the rest of America on this issue. The other makes it look as if there's close agreement. The information is the same, they way it is dressed up is different, and on TV, it makes a difference.
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          • I doubt they used that graphic on TV. Looks like one of the webpage graphs. And I don't see what's so misleading about it, considering the numbers representing the percentages are the same size as the question. If you're looking close enough to know what the graph is about, you should notice the obvious numbers.
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            • Che just looks at the pictures.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • It's better than reading you folks.
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • Che just looks at the pictures.


                  I don't doubt it.
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                  • Can we just ban all mention of Terri Schiavo on Apolyton? Please?
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                    • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      One makes it look visually, as if liberals are far from the rest of America on this issue. The other makes it look as if there's close agreement. The information is the same, they way it is dressed up is different, and on TV, it makes a difference.
                      Bingo. The way the information is presented misleads people who look at the CNN graph without reading into the numbers. Graphs have the greatest potential to mislead, which is why I really dislike the use of them by news agencies.
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                      • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                        If you're looking close enough to know what the graph is about, you should notice the obvious numbers.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • That's nice, but irrelevent.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                          • FYI, that was one of the standard techniques to mislead with graphs taught in my Introduction to Statistics class in 1976.

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                            • When did MrFun hack into your account shawn?
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • Originally posted by Ned
                                Rufus, Bizzaro GOP? You simply refuse to acknowledge the many liberals who are on the side of mercy as well. It is clear from the many posts here from liberals attacking the pro-Terri people as being "fundies" and the like, regardless of the facts, that the people making a political issue of this are the primarily from the left.
                                the "pro-Terri" people are the ones opposing the efforts of the religious right

                                the "pro-Terri" people support removing the tube in accordance with her wishes
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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