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  • Originally posted by Ned


    Why of course, her wishes were clear!

    [Do you have any idea of the facts of this case?]
    Plenty. Much more then you in your fantasy land. She made the statement in front of four people all adults of legal standing. In a court of law here husband's word would have been enough but with her sister in law and two other long time friends all bearing witness to the exact same statements made by her the case is closed. I'm sorry you are blinded by ideology and the lies of the religious right but those are simply the facts. 19 judges have all agreed. You lose, now crawl back under your rock.
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    • Ill use this incident has an example. Some one dont know if she is a nurse or not. Claims she witnessed the guy trying to inject insulin. if she saw this her duty was to report to the rn and have the rn chart it so as she didnt get her ass in trouble if the woman died with no clear reason. If you as a medical worker see or do something and you are not the rn you must report it and have it charted. If there is no written record in medicene then the act never happened thats how the laws are viewed. Even if the incident occured if it wasnt charted it never happened
      We nurses call it cover your ass
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      • Originally posted by Tuberski


        No, she's not brain dead. Damaged? Yes. Dead? No.

        If she was brain dead she would need life support.

        Now can you drop it?

        ACK!
        how about this.

        she is cerebral cortex dead.

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        • I dont think that was the point diss. Tubes has a point brain dead you cant breathe on your own damged you can. I think he was answering shwns question. The idea of her being in her own little world wasnt the thing tubes was addressing.
          When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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          • Nah, Tubes is just being contrarian.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • , I knew someone would do it. Jesse Jackson now comparing the pope's feeding tube with Terri Schiavo. Unbelievable.

              He was just on CNN (via telephone) right now doing this very same comparison.

              to be fair, he didn't say they were the same situation, but to even bring the idea up is preposterous.

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              • Dissedent - thank you. Seriously. I'm just very tired, and to see the hair-splitting on her cognitive state is just so, well, frustrating and sad at the same time. As I've said, I watched friends in the same denial about their six year old daughter. It was tragic, and she died in part because of that denial. What absolutely frightens is that these people, in their denial, are the same people who would pass laws affecting me and my family.

                OK - fine, she's not brain dead, she's cerebral cortex dead. Now, can can anybody bring up any cites, that are at a minimum at the same level as the American Academy of Neurosciences, that indicate that she has AS MUCH CEREBRAL FUNCTION AS A DUMB HAMSTER. Thank you all, and good night.
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                • Every doctor who matters and who wasn't brought in specifically by the opposition agrees she's in a PVS. The court apointed doctors, the independent doctors, and the husbands doctors all agree and it was only a few nut jobs from the right to life people who said other wise and no one found them to be at all creditable. Not that facts will stop the Neds of the world though.
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                  • does this kid know what he's praying for?

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                        • thinner parents
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                            • I see that her parents have again petitioned the SCOTUS, yet I would swear that this weekend they said the were stopping federal court appeals. hmmm

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                              • Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                                Why would they wait ten years and not report this to the police when it happened? Why are they lying? Because that's what right-wing Christians do in order to confuse people. Lying for a higher purpose isn't a sin.
                                Why of course, Che. All people who oppose Michael Schiavo are right wing Christians by definition.
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