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  • I hope he is fit in time - his combination with Chris Jack was the best engine room partnership I have seen in the ABs in a decade. The clash between that pair and any Lions combo containing O'Connell will be sweet (naturally I am hoping for O'Connell-Kay).
    It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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    • This is interesting as PR do not often publish any feedback that highlights their SH bias.

      Boozy selection

      I have decided I am not coming in again until after Easter so here is wishing all the rugger buggers in this thread a happy easter.
      It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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      • For when you get back - who exactly is behind PR?
        " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
        "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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        • Back hopeful of Lions tour place

          Former England flanker Neil Back has said he hopes to earn a place on his third British and Irish Lions tour despite his international retirement.

          The 36-year-old Leicester player worked with Lions coach Sir Clive Woodward for England and is already doubling up as Leicester's defensive coach.

          "Having retired from internationals last year my focus has been entirely on Leicester as a player and coach.

          "If the Lions selectors believe I fit into their plans, I'll go," he said.


          Great player in his day, but how ordinary would the available flanker stocks be if he were to be selected?
          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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          • Hey Havak. In case you overdosed on chocolate eggs over the weekend and passed out and missed this:

            Leeds 23 -d- Leicester 22

            And why is coach Robinson commiting himself so heavily to the new L***** recruit?
            " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
            "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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            • Today's my birthday. I got a lovely assortment of gifts from the family and the dogs. The best present of all, however, was the news that H. Paul has buggered his knee.

              " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
              "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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              • Happy Birthday Finbar...

                Sorry guys, I don't have much time for Rugby these days a lot of things are happening in my life since a few weeks and for the first time I have a lot of projects... and I need a lot of time.
                "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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                • Well I hope everyone had an Easter as good as mine was.

                  A quick search finds PR is run by the Teamtalk group Finbar – a brand owned by Rivals Digitial Media Ltd (who are HQ’d in London) and in turn owned by UKbetting.

                  I suppose one could try to find the nationality of their main hacks – but the flavour of the site indicates few would be Poms.

                  Great player in his day, but how ordinary would the available flanker stocks be if he were to be selected?
                  The indirect answer to your question is that Martyn Williams is being touted as a test starter with Johnny O’Connor next in line.

                  Neil Back today is still a far better openside than either of those gents. There are a few very young lads kicking around who have huge promise as 7’s for England – but right now Back would still play for both England and the Lions for me. Someone with his huge workrate and ‘art’ will be needed to counter McCaw.

                  And why is coach Robinson committing himself so heavily to the new L***** recruit?
                  Because his judgement is hugely suspect in everything he does?

                  Tigers are doing all they can to hand the league to Dayglo. The Leeds result was superb preparation for Dublin next weekend.

                  Btw … HAPPY BIRTHDAY FINBAR!
                  It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                  • Originally posted by finbar
                    edit...

                    No one here - apart from MOBIUS, and he was p*ssed - thinks Wales is a great team.

                    edit..
                    well i have to agree with Mobius, even if he was drunk .
                    I think that looking at the type of rugby that the teams played in the six nations, i'd say they proved they are a great team. Maybe not the greatest in the world right now, but they have regained something that for a welsh team is the biggest issue. Confidence.

                    Its been sadly missing in welsh rugby since the gareth edwards days, and its nice for northern hemisphere rugby to see it back. It now means that on the day they at least will go on the field feeling that they have a chance against any of the teams in the world.

                    They will loose some games, but for the near to mid future while the young guys get more experience, wales should atleast gain some respect from the other big teams, and maybe take the odd surprised scalp here and there.

                    Dont underestimate how important confidence is to the welsh style of playing.
                    'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

                    Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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                    • They are a good side playing with lots of confidence - far, far, far away from being a great side as yet.

                      Big wins against SH sides in the autumn and a win at twickers next year and I will start to think about using the word 'great' for them.
                      It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                      • Originally posted by Tamerlin
                        Happy Birthday Finbar...
                        I got a shortwave radio from Mrs finbar for my birthday! So I can listen to the BBC World Service when in Italy!



                        Sorry guys, I don't have much time for Rugby these days a lot of things are happening in my life since a few weeks and for the first time I have a lot of projects... and I need a lot of time.
                        You'd better have some spare time in the second half of the year because we're probably going to come visiting!
                        " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                        "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                        • Originally posted by Havak
                          Well I hope everyone had an Easter as good as mine was.
                          One giant easter egg from beginning to end?

                          I suppose one could try to find the nationality of their main hacks – but the flavour of the site indicates few would be Poms.
                          I think the flavour of the site indicates their intent - to wind up, to provoke anyone and everyone. It's quite possible they're all Poms. Working in the Lads' Magazine style of, um, journalism.

                          Neil Back today is still a far better openside than either of those gents. There are a few very young lads kicking around who have huge promise as 7’s for England – but right now Back would still play for both England and the Lions for me. Someone with his huge workrate and ‘art’ will be needed to counter McCaw.
                          I acknowledge Back's greatness at the height of his powers. The last time I saw him at international level he was starting to struggle and that was a while ago now. If he remains the best available, you're right - England's in trouble for #7s.

                          Because his judgement is hugely suspect in everything he does?
                          Yes, but there has to be more to it than that. Is it on behalf of the RU? Why would a national coach go so far out in a limb for someone untried? Eddie is obviously vastly more sage than Robinson, and he never lauded the talents of Rogers or Tuquiri. Regardless of what he thought privately, his only public statement was that they'd be considered if they were good enough.
                          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                          • Originally posted by child of Thor
                            Dont underestimate how important confidence is to the welsh style of playing.
                            I couldn't agree more. Their confidence grew and grew through the tournament. The French match, I think, was the turning point for them. They fought back and it did wonders for their confidence. But I can't rank them as a great side yet. Their opposition this year was largely crap, with the exception of the French who were, typically, erratic. I think Wales is a very promising outfit. I think they've got more steps to take. I hope they take them.
                            " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                            "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                            • @ Havok + Finbar,

                              Yes i agree they have much to prove on the world stage - especialy for all the years in the wilderness and all those 'false dawns'.

                              Still for the first time in around 20 years i can feel the difference in the way they play - they belive in themselves, and especialy that game against France(in Paris).
                              A welsh team of the last decade or so would have come out and been slaughterd after half time, or played a negative containing style of rugby - which isn't really the welsh way.

                              They make many more mistakes with this current style, as you could see in the stats after the irish match(on stats Ireland should easily have won), but it seems to suit them.

                              Still they need a few more high profile scalps to cement the good work they've seen rewarded in this six nations. A good Lions tour would be a boost, especialy for the english players who must be gutted with their six nations.

                              But its made interesting viewing this time around - i dont think anyone would have predicted the results for this six nations!
                              Makes the Lions tour even more tasty - all those good english players wanting to salvage something, i dont think they'll be much love lost in those games
                              'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

                              Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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                              • Well as long as all the angst is directed solely against the Kiwis that should be a good thing. I followed the last Lions tour down south and if the players are again as united as the fans managed to be back then only the ABs need to fear any players with ‘points to prove’. I have happy memories of drinking through many nights with the Boyos on tour.

                                Their will be more English players in the tests than 6N form would suggest – the squad of 44 gets named in 12 days time.

                                I think what worries me about Wales is that their slender back line has not yet met a big one – such as Australia or NZ – and that Jones has not been properly tested by anyone’s loosies yet (only France got their loosies to disrupt Welsh ball consistently – and only for one half!).

                                I’m certainly going to be interested to see the Henson-Shanklin combination against the Boks and Aussies as they certainly didn’t come up against physical matches for themselves in the 6N (England playing boys and France wheeling out a totally new mid field too) . We didn’t even get to see them counter D’Arcy-BO’D which would have been tasty? Maggs-BO’D just wasn’t the same challenge.

                                Wales played some great running rugby in the 6N and were fantastic to watch at times but that niggling doubt remains – were they simply the only good side in a year that no one else was?

                                One giant easter egg from beginning to end?
                                Six days off work not having to deal with the IT-phobic unwashed masses.

                                Working in the Lads' Magazine style of, um, journalism.
                                Nicely phrased as always.

                                If he remains the best available, you're right - England's in trouble for #7s.
                                He is and we are. Witness Moody being played there out of position and Andy Hazell making the bench!! Reaping the ‘benefits’ of the way clubs neglected player development in the late 90s. There’s a couple of youngsters – Lund at Sale and Skinner (though a shoulder injury has plagued him this season) at my own club who look future England sevens but apart from them I would say the Aussie-Pom Lipman, when fit, is the best option England have. Moody is a world class six and a decent seven – but turnip keeps playing him at seven of course.

                                Why would a national coach go so far out in a limb for someone untried?
                                Well Clive was a match for Eddie on the IQ front. AR is certainly not. The fact RFU money is under writing Farrell means he will don an England shirt several times even if he totally sucks. I cite Henry Paul as precedent.

                                It’s not long now is it Finbar? Before that radio moves to Italia I mean?
                                It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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