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    In the sweep of history, I don't think there has been such a string of democratic revolutions. During the Cold War, democracy felt to me more like a status quo ideology, but the two decades since that time have proven that democracy -- an ideology over two centuries old -- surpisingly has a pretty sharp edge.

    The US has supported most of the recent revolutions with only very modest amounts of money: About $20 million apiece. This demonstrates to me that if you are spending a lot of money supporting these revolutions, you probably aren't getting your money's worth. You also have extreme odd couples like Bush and Soros and quite interesting side stories.

    Some countries have proven very resistant. Iran costs some $40 million per annum, but we don't know when or if it will topple. If you want to include Iraq as a democratic revolution, then that costs some $50 billion + per annum. You might want to include Lebanon as a package deal with Iraq.

    Next up on the hit parade, Asia and the Middle East...

    Lebanon
    Kyrgyzstan
    Uzbekistan?
    Moldova?
    Kazakhstan?
    Last edited by DanS; February 28, 2005, 16:09.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    forced democracy

    voluntary democracy

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    • #3
      It has nothing to do with the US. More to do with access to mass media.

      Besides, the western "democracies" aren't really, anymore.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • #4
        You sound as if that is pure business.....
        Blah

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        • #5
          I'm thinking of investing in a revolution myself, but am unsure of the dividends.
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          • #6
            yes, what about the cost of life in attaining democracy?

            no big a deal if that's what the people want, but against their will?

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            • #7
              There's a what-now going on? Eh?

              If you want an actual string of democratic revolutions, try 1848.
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              • #8
                What democratic revolutions?
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by General Ludd
                  I'm thinking of investing in a revolution myself, but am unsure of the dividends.
                  do you own stock in Haliburton? If so, then

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BeBro
                    You sound as if that is pure business.....
                    Well, I wouldn't describe it quite as "pure business", in that you can't really "buy" these revolutions. Soros spent a fortune trying to bring down Bush and it had little to no impact, for instance. However, as stated, a modest sum of money is helping to even the playing field with undemocratic governments.
                    Last edited by DanS; February 28, 2005, 15:28.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Agathon
                      It has nothing to do with the US. More to do with access to mass media.

                      Besides, the western "democracies" aren't really, anymore.
                      "Capitalist Democracy" is an oxymoron. If the workplace isn't democratic, democracy is a joke.

                      Corporate Republics:

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                      • #12
                        Let's see...

                        Elections in Afghanistan
                        Elections in Iraq
                        Libya gives up WMD's
                        Lebanon demonstrating in the street for democracy
                        Egypt Changing its constitution to be more democratic
                        Elections in Palestine.

                        Yep...Bush and his policies are idiotic.
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PLATO
                          Let's see...

                          Elections in Afghanistan
                          Elections in Iraq
                          Libya gives up WMD's
                          Lebanon demonstrating in the street for democracy
                          Egypt Changing its constitution to be more democratic
                          Elections in Palestine.

                          Yep...Bush and his policies are idiotic.
                          do all the dead people on both sides mean nothing to you?

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                          • #14
                            Ukraine
                            Georgia
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              Elections in Afghanistan


                              "Show" elections. The Afghan government does not control the country.

                              Elections in Iraq


                              Have made no difference, just like the Vietnamese "elections" did.

                              Libya gives up WMD's


                              Because Gaddafi wanted something in return.

                              Lebanon demonstrating in the street for democracy


                              Due to an assassination by God knows whom.

                              Egypt Changing its constitution to be more democratic.


                              Long time coming, but perhaps a fig leaf according to reports.

                              Elections in Palestine.


                              Pretty much worthless given the circumstances.

                              Yep...Bush and his policies are idiotic.


                              Plainly so.
                              Only feebs vote.

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