On further reflection, this would seem not only cruel but stupid, trying to get someone to talk via a method of torture that severely restricts breathing. They don't seem to have let him down at all, how was he supposed to say anything?
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Ten years for murder?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by shawnmmcc
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However, for whatever reason he received broken ribs, using this Palestinian hanging technique (I wonder why the technique has that name, anyone care to guess)
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Because the Israelis often use this technique to play with their palestinian captives.Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Originally posted by Elok
Well, they didn't nail him through the wrists, but otherwise that's pretty much crucifixion, yes. Holy crap, what a bunch of sickos...I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Abu Ghraib seems to have been the Zimbardo experiment gone wild.
Shawn: I'm puzzled by the blood out of the mouth as it seems if properly done this "hanging technique" won’t hurt someone if he stands but if he tries to sit then all of his weight will twist his arms up and back. Wouldn't that result in dislocation of the shoulders? The only source of the blood which came out of his mouth (that I can think of) is one of the broken ribs punctured his lung.
Do we know how he got the broken ribs? How was he captured and did he resist arrest (thus causing the SEALs to use force, maybe excessive force)?Last edited by Dinner; February 21, 2005, 15:52.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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There's good and bad in this. The bad is, this kind of things do happen. The good is, they got caught, showing again that this kind of behaviour is not generally tolerated. I feel 10 years is too little, but then again, it is 10 years, it counts for something even if we would feel someone needs to serve more. Then again I come from country where sentence this long is RARE so I feel it's up to par. COuld be more though.In da butt.
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I wonder why the technique has that name, anyone care to guess
We are learning from our Israeli friends it seems
Ten years for murder?
ACTUALLY, Oerdin was confused. This guy has NOT been charged yet.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Originally posted by shawnmmcc
Plus only regular troopers have been convicted, nobody yet has explained to me how a group of regular GI's suddenly learned various sophisticated culturally targeted abuse techniques to break a prisoner's will. Yet nobody above a sergeant has been charged I believe."Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
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I will be hugely outraged...once the people of the ME start being outraged at blowing up children and beheading innocent prisoners."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Frankly, I'm sick of the US being gripped at while people who are just as bad or worse get a blind eye turned to them.
I will never support this kind of torture by my country, but I am sick of people screaming so loud at us and remaining silent to the other side."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Well duh, that's because people KNOW what to expect. They hold some others in higher standards for a reason. And this time around, this particular case deserves to be shouted and and spat at. Nothing less.In da butt.
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