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  • #16
    On further reflection, this would seem not only cruel but stupid, trying to get someone to talk via a method of torture that severely restricts breathing. They don't seem to have let him down at all, how was he supposed to say anything?
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    • #17
      Ten years for murder?
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      • #18
        Originally posted by shawnmmcc
        ...
        However, for whatever reason he received broken ribs, using this Palestinian hanging technique (I wonder why the technique has that name, anyone care to guess )
        ...
        Can be found within the text.
        Because the Israelis often use this technique to play with their palestinian captives.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Elok
          Well, they didn't nail him through the wrists, but otherwise that's pretty much crucifixion, yes. Holy crap, what a bunch of sickos...
          Abu Ghraib seems to have been the Zimbardo experiment gone wild.
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          • #20
            god bless america! (and no one else)
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            • #21
              Originally posted by DinoDoc
              Abu Ghraib seems to have been the Zimbardo experiment gone wild.
              Yes, Abu Ghraib does seem to have been an out of control hell hole without any meaningful supervision.

              Shawn: I'm puzzled by the blood out of the mouth as it seems if properly done this "hanging technique" won’t hurt someone if he stands but if he tries to sit then all of his weight will twist his arms up and back. Wouldn't that result in dislocation of the shoulders? The only source of the blood which came out of his mouth (that I can think of) is one of the broken ribs punctured his lung.

              Do we know how he got the broken ribs? How was he captured and did he resist arrest (thus causing the SEALs to use force, maybe excessive force)?
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              • #22
                There's good and bad in this. The bad is, this kind of things do happen. The good is, they got caught, showing again that this kind of behaviour is not generally tolerated. I feel 10 years is too little, but then again, it is 10 years, it counts for something even if we would feel someone needs to serve more. Then again I come from country where sentence this long is RARE so I feel it's up to par. COuld be more though.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                  Ten years for murder?
                  It's as though the UCMJ justices were European with sentences that light.

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                  • #24
                    Nice to know that a "modern, enlightened country" like the US actively tortures it's prisoners.

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                    • #25
                      I wonder why the technique has that name, anyone care to guess


                      We are learning from our Israeli friends it seems

                      Ten years for murder?


                      ACTUALLY, Oerdin was confused. This guy has NOT been charged yet.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by shawnmmcc
                        Plus only regular troopers have been convicted, nobody yet has explained to me how a group of regular GI's suddenly learned various sophisticated culturally targeted abuse techniques to break a prisoner's will. Yet nobody above a sergeant has been charged I believe.
                        Why would someone have to be above sergeant to know these things? Actually nearly all interrogators are enlisted, not officers. Ignorant people need to stop making these assumptions.
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                        • #27
                          I will be hugely outraged...once the people of the ME start being outraged at blowing up children and beheading innocent prisoners.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by PLATO
                            I will be hugely outraged...once the people of the ME start being outraged at blowing up children and beheading innocent prisoners.
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                            • #29
                              Frankly, I'm sick of the US being gripped at while people who are just as bad or worse get a blind eye turned to them.

                              I will never support this kind of torture by my country, but I am sick of people screaming so loud at us and remaining silent to the other side.
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                              • #30
                                Well duh, that's because people KNOW what to expect. They hold some others in higher standards for a reason. And this time around, this particular case deserves to be shouted and and spat at. Nothing less.
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