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  • Originally posted by Kontiki


    Not quite. There's plenty of documented polyandrical (multiple husbands) situations. It's reasonably common in Tibet, Nepal and Sri Lanka, among a few other places.

    As for the idea of closed communes with rules as to who you can and cannot marry, you're right that that would (should) be a problem. But the practice of polygamy in and of itself needn't allow that.
    I guess i should have stated that in the states the recorded cases is that men have more then one wife the women not. Not that matters, What bothers me about this is as i have stated beforeis that most of these families end up in the walfare system for me and my tax dollars to support. Their medical benefits and food stamps.
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    • Originally posted by Kontiki


      Sorry, I was thinking about the subset of step siblings where they share one parent but not both.
      In this case the children would be half brother or sister. and there is the risk of inbreeding and that is dangerous as well.
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      • In the cases in the states I dont know if its law or not but you cannot marry any one blood related that is a brother sister father mother aunt uncle or 1st cousin. Second cousin is still up for debate.
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        • And that's my point. We currently don't allow (or at least morally frown upon, I'm not certain what the laws actually are) the practice of half brothers and half sisters breeding, so I'm not sure why that would change if we allowed for multiple spouses.
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          • Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski In all recorded instances of polygamy recorded, it is the man that is allowed more then one wife. The laws do not include women. In closed communties the girls are born from the same father and married to one of the other wives sons, when they are old enough. This is where inbreeding occurs.
            And who said we'd follow the historical model of polygamy? I clearly stated that if legalizes it should simply include the option for multiple spouses for men and women.
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            • The possiablity of two half siblings marrying ech would be the product of polygimus activity.
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              • Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
                The possiablity of two half siblings marrying ech would be the product of polygimus activity.
                Unless you're assuming a closed commune, why does this have to be the case?
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                • Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
                  The possiablity of two half siblings marrying ech would be the product of polygimus activity.
                  Or divorce/remarriage under the status quo.
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                  • I think the confusion would be to great for anybody to keep up with if polygamy is legalized.
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                    • Originally posted by Kontiki


                      That's not a defense of anything. If you're going to make a case for something, try making an actual argument. The question on the table is how it would help marriage. If you really think there is value in gay marriage, you should be able to answer that with something of substance.
                      Get the **** off my case, kontiki. It very well is a valid argument. Gay couples are just as capable, so why discriminate? Can you give me a reason please. That's a very sound argument. How it would help marriage? If we let them marry, wouldn't it strengthen it as there are more married couples? **** off.
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                      • How does increasing the number of married couples stregthen marriage?
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                        • Originally posted by Kontiki
                          How does increasing the number of married couples stregthen marriage?
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • Originally posted by Kontiki
                            How does increasing the number of married couples stregthen marriage?
                            How does increasing the number of people who have free speech strengthen the right to free speech?
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                            • Are you aware that the majority of those opposed to marriage favour civil unions?
                              Yes. Your point?

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                              • You know I cant think of a thing that hurts the institution of marriage between members ofthe same sex. As long as the couple is dedicated too one another and willing to withstand the attacks of people who dont like it then why not let them marry. After all marriage is a commitment to love respect support and make a life for each other together. The only things I have heard bad is that what happens if kids get into the picture? Will they be raised in a unacceptable way. My answer is no they kids will make the choices they want when they make them. Hell if a gay couple is allowed to adopt children why cant they marry as well?
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