Europe 1750...

[Midshipman]

Oh man, colonies! Now I have to refigure anything. BT, are there going to be any other maps, or is this it so I can refigure. Also, is the 100,000 troops for over all, because that seem smalll compared to other nations with colonies? I'm going to redo everything tomorrow morning.

[JT3]

The Rhinish(pronounced Rhine-ish) commander, Heinrich Vutstein, walked to the top of the hill and raised the spyglass to his eye. He saw the Duchie army a mile and a half away, preparing their small, undertrained group for the battle that was ahead.

Vutstein collected the I Army in a rather loose formation. It was split in two parts, half to go up the middle, half to try to outflank the enemy army. It was a classic maneuver, particularly well used by Rhinish armies as their calvalry was more abundant than in other European armies, and therefore gave them more speed and a better chance of successfully flanking. First, however, Vutstein would be opening up with sheer firepower. Firepower that he intended to use to crush the enemy army before they could fire back.

At dawn, Vutstein climbed to the top of the hill again. Around him the Rhinish artillery was positioned to strike. They had been setting up all night, making the slightest adjustments to make sure their shots would count.

"Ready!"

The artillerysmen took their positions.

"Aim!"

The artillery was braced.

"FIRE!"

Fifty-two artillery pieces opened fire upon the Duchie army. Almost immediatly, chaos took hold of the enemy, and any chain of command was forgotten as men scrambled to flee from the explosions and fire surrounding them. The artillery continued to fire, destroying enemy cannon, killing horses, and blowing bodies in all directions.

The Duchie commander began to yell as loud as he could a single word:

"STOP!"

Many Duchie troops ran for cover, but one there, gave their attention to their officer. He slowly reorganized his army, even during the constant picking off of men by the Rhinish.

A little after noon, the Duchies began their desperate counterattack. They were outnumbered and outgunned, yet a seemingly insane courag had taken hold of them. Vutstein quickly ushered his ranks to the front.

"Steady!"

The Duchies marched forward. There was less than 1000 yards between them.

"Steady!"

800 yards.

"STEADY!"

500 yards. 450. 400.

"Open fire!"

Musket balls tore into the Duchie ranks, bringing down man after man. Some of the Duchies used their dead comrades for human sheilds. Others simply stood still, parylized with fear. Half continued to march forward and began to fire. The Rhinish artillery continued its merciless assault, killing the middle and back ranks of the Duchie army before they could even fire their guns.

Rhinish calvalry, accompanied by the fastest infantrymen, slowly came out of the forest. They had waited for exactly the right moment. Now it had arrived. They were directly left of the Duchie ranks, and had a perfect attack route to surround and capture nearly two-thirds of all men in all Duchie forces. Their artillery, set up in the dense tree during the night, opened fire.

The Duchie men were taken totally by surprise. Entire rows were suddenly impaled by shells coming from the left. They started to lose their organization, and some began to run. The Duchie commander continued to ride forward on his horse, firing his rifle when he could, and keeping order in the ranks he could see. But then, he too was killed by the Rhinish, the flanking army charging forward killing all they saw.

By dusk it was over. The Rhinish had won. The battle was over. 9,460 Duchies had been taken prisoner, another 11,000 killed. The Rhinish had lost 4,570 of their own men. But their lives had been given for the glory of the Empire. And their comrades were proud of their homeland, and the sacrifice their friends had given. Now they marched on, closing on the Duchie capital, bringing the greatness of the Rhineland with them, to be spread yet again.
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[Mao]

hold up hold up, can we do our own battleposting? As I understood it, this was just a very complicated game of dimplomacy where the GM decided the outcome of battles and how each manuever was successful and how the NPC nations counter the player nations.

[JT3]

Well I'm not staying if we can't do our own battle posting, that's most of the fun.

[Bearcat]

Waaaaah This is messing me up. A few questions. #1 is for your cities do multiply the number of stacks for money or take all the cities you have and add a zero. #2 Do we get our military figures by dividing our total cash by 30%? Help!

[JT3]

OOC: BT, just reread the rules for a fourth time and saw that note on the battle outcome thing. However, unless for some reason the Duchies win, can you let my battle post stay as-is? I rather like it. Plus, I did some calculations, and not only would the Duchie army be very small, it also would most likely not have the greatest leaders. Or the best equipment.

[Mao]

but remember JT3, neither would yours.

We have to get something straight here: Is this just a bigassed game of Dimplomacy or is this a story thread? Combining the two can be tried, but may fail.

[General_BT]

If one does not dare, one has already failed.
Cities don't gain more stacks than they have.

Yoru budget figures are per turn... Should I increase each turn to three days so everyone can have more time to figure things?

I've never played diplomacy, so I don't have a clue why people keep comparing this to it. The reason for the battlepost thing is to keep things from happening which almost happened in Fourth War at Sidgames... everyone complaining about realism until the forum breaks apart. I found a system to do the battles fairly well, its accurate, and it, unlike humans, in objective. That was a nice post, but could you send your attacking army size, and your tactic, and above all, where its attacking to me? Someone may want to take the Hesse Duchies...

If you'd like to play with the program I'm using... its at http://www.keogh.net/eia/script/combat.cgi

And sorry, JT, you don't have a standing army of 121,000 troops... try more around 40,000 total... PRUSSIA doesn't even have over 80,000 troops at this point in history.

Basically, POlaris, you take the number of men in your army, and then you divide it into corps (note how I did it for theNPCs if you need and example), and post where those are at. Then, your excess military budget allows you to build units... the costs are listed in the first post...


Bearcat, its 30% of your total budget is your military budget. That covers maintenace and new production. That percentage will increase to 50% in wartime.

Its also a good thing that we aren't officially starting until Monday when Boshko gets back... by then we can hopefully have all this sorted out.

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[PolarisGL]

I think I understand.
Sounds fun!

JT3, no battle posting until monday.

I say that a turn = 2 months, so it is divided into 6 months per year. (2 months = 2 days).

[Midshipman]

Do I get more men for colony defense? Otherwise, I will be spread very thin.

[PolarisGL]

FRANCE = $3,170
::: Europe: $2,100
::: Americas: $1,060
::: India: $40

: 30% * 3,170 = 951.
::: Total Army budget: $350
::: Total Navy Budget: $105.5
::: Total Military Budget: $455.5

:::: $951 - 455.5 = $495.5 military budget per turn

[JT3]

BT: How about 60,000? The HRE is rather populated, plus don't you think kings would be pretty nervous with all those other states around them and build up? Not to mention that most main countries would have to have a large load of naval personnel, while I don't.

Mao: I meant small as in they only have 50$ total every turn so they're going to be very unequipped.

Okay, I had 20,000 tropps in the middle, and 10,000 flanking the Duchie left side.
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[Midshipman]

BT, how about explaining the colony system you have put on America

[JT3]

BT: I'm doing 60,000 right now just cuz I like having 30,000 in each Army Group and I haven't gotten an answer yet. Just say the word and it will be changed.

ARMY GROUP I(This group attacked Duchies)

ARMY I: 10,000 men
10,000 Regulars: 10$
Stationed in Baden

ARMY II: 10,000 men
10,000 Regulars: 10$
Stationed in Palatinate

ARMY III: 10,000 men
10,000 Regulars: 10$
Stationed in Mainz

ARMY GROUP II

ARMY IV: 10,000 men
10,000 Regulars: 10$
Stationed in Stuttgart

ARMY V: 10,000 men
10,000 Regulars: 10$
Stationed in Ulm

ARMY VI: 10,000 men
10,000 Regulars: 10$
Stationed in Freiburg

Recruiting: 30,000 Regulars: 60$

Total Spent: 120$
Cash Saved For Next Quarter: 25$

Like I said, BT, say the word.....

[Coug]

I change my build orders. 2 light warships to 2 transports