Europe 1750...

[Bearcat]

Another thing was royal marriages. For example an Austrian duchess could be married to a Spanish count thus forming a Spanish-Austrian alliance. But in 1750 both Spain and Austria were Hapsburg weren't they? Anyway Boshko my e-mail is frymire@uswest.net. I really need to go figure out my power. Oh by the way let's say if I conquer or annex a port than does that mean I can start building a navy?

[General_BT]

If you have a port, you can build navy units there. So yes, if you conquer a port, you can start naval construction (I think you already can since you own Trieste)

[Midshipman]

I'm downloading the map now. I'll have my stats up later tonight.
For general knowledge, I don't have ICQ, because I am getting a new computer in two-three days, and I don't want to fool around with it now. Also, do my colonies count for income, and do I have to detach troops to defend them? And is Gibralter British. I can't tell.
I'll check back later.
Also, great map. Kudos to General BT for setting this up.

[General_BT]

Gibraltar is supposed to be British. (I think at this time) Its just stupid MS Pain put the colors very close to each other.
The map is simply a Empires in Arms map from a defunct PBEM game.
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[Boshko]

nope, Gib isn't english yet I don't think.
could be wrong though...

[Bearcat]

I can check. Gibraltar became British in 1704.
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[Bearcat]

Allright I checked these were the leaders I could find in 1750.

Spain - Ferdinand VI
Austria - Francis I
France - Louis XV
Britain - George II
Sweden - Frederick I
Prussia - Frederick II, the Great
Denmark - Frederick V
Portugal - Joseph
Papacy - Benedict XIV
Russia - Elizabeth


I know that some changes have been made. But these were the IRL rulers.

[Midshipman]

Okay, here goes.


London: 20,000 - 1st Corps - Amherst
2 H, 4 L, 2 P, 1 T - 1st Fleet
Portsmouth: 15,000 - 2nd Corps - Cumberland
2 L
Plymouth: 10,000 - 3rd Corps - Stair
2 H, 3 L, 2 P, 1 T - 2nd Fleet
Liverpool: 10,000 - 4th Corps - Braddock
1 L, 1 T
Edinburgh: 10,000 - 5th Corps - Wolfe
1 H, 2 L, 1 T - 3rd Fleet
Gibralter: 5,000 - 6th Corps - Abercromby
1 H, 2 L, 1 P - 4th Fleet
Cork: 10,000 - 7th Corps - Eyre Coot
1 L
Belfast: 10,000 - 8th Corps - Wade
Hanover: 10,000 - 9th Corps - Clive

Budget:
120 Terrain Squares * 10 = $1200
55 Cities * 10 = $550
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Total Money = $1750

Military Budget:
1750 * 30% = $525
Upkeep Budget:

100,000 regulars = $100
10 Heavy = $50
15 Light = $37.5
5 Privateers = $25
5 Transports = $5
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Total Upkeep = $217.5

Surplus = $307.5

England is calling 100,000 men into service
Also, construction started at London on 3 Heavy, and 6 Light Warships.

Construction Budget:

100,000 Regulars = $200
3 Heavy = $30
6 Light = $30

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Total Construction = $260
Surplus = $47.50

The surplus is to be stored in the Royal Treasuy for emergency uses in the future.

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[Mao]

Question: Is this conducted like a game of Dimplomacy or a story thread? Do we put dimplomatic offers in this thread (ala story thread) or do we do it privately (ala Diplomacy)?

[Boshko]

note: Hanover is English

[Midshipman]

I don't know if this was covered earlier, but shouldn't troops from different nations have different strengths due to equipment and training. England, for example, while she has a smaller army than the Ottomans, has troops that are better equipped and better trained in most casses (exception:Janissaries) So, shouldn't her troops be more powerful than the Ottomans?

[Bearcat]

Yes of course. The Royal Army for years was the best army in the world. I think that a group of well armed, well trained Brits could easily turn back a group of rag-tag Ottomans.

[hacksaw]

How cool! I will take sweden if that is ok

[General_BT]

Diplomacy was supposed to be covered al la story thread... we can be far more creative that way...

Um.. I did take nationalities into account... Prussian's recieve an automatic +1 on their combat (because their drilled enough they can practically do a somersault and land on the enemies rear during a battle! )... British troops were known for their discipline (holding fire until the last posible minute to inflict the most damage, etc.), but they weren't capable of some of the Prussian tactical wizardry on the part of battalion and company commanders (obliquing opponents despite all sorts of fire, etc.). A +1 is a major increase with the rolls I'm using (considering the main Prussian army will usually also get another plus with Frederick at its head)...

I'm still debating what to do with the Ottomans... They're such a special case...

Go ahead and take Sweden Hacksaw... if you don't like the current deployments and build orders, feel free to send me a message and I'll change them to what you want...


There was one thing I did forget however:
MOVEMENT
Armies can move one territory per turn.
Fleets can move two sea territories per turn
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[Bearcat]

I just gotta ask. What about the Austrians?