Utopia - Age 19 (An Era of Hope)

[Lemmy]

OMFG...they still can' taccept defeat...
The kd we're warring with has changed king, here is a msg from the new king:

To The Honorable King Jaime
Ok, my people have elected me as King. We have offered you peace, I don't think surrender is an option? We have fought, hard and long during this war and have recently even stopped attacking your Kingdom while we get the monarchy arranged. Your Kingdom has continually attacked us, yet still you are only slightly bigger than us.

Given the circumstances of this war, I hope you will be man enough to take this mutual peace, let us remain friends and hopefully help each other out through this age.

Look forward to your response.


Signed, King SlipperyFingers the Rogue of Flaming Sambuca (26:20)

Some facts:
They declared hostile on us
They were bigger then us when the hostile started, now we are bigger then them
We are kicking their ass for 2 days now, the war meter is 134 in our favor.

Here's last months and todays news:

** Summary **
We lost 249 acres.
We gained 482 acres.
We razed 104 acres.
Aid packets sent: 6.
We failed 1 attacks.

[Lemmy]

I decided to sent their monarch a message.....hopefully he'll get smart and surrender...

Hey, i read this msg you sent to my monarch

And i must ask you, where do you get the impression that you DESERVE a mutual pease, just because you fought long and hard? Obviously it wasn't hard enough, the war meter is at this moment 136 in our favor, and only 64 in yours. The meter has been above 130 in our favor for 2 days now.
In the last 2 days, we conquered 482 acres, you only got 249, do you want to keep this up forever?
That you stopped attacking was your own fault, we are at WAR, YOUR kingdom declared war on us, if you can't handle us, then SURRENDER, simple as that!

I've played on the BF last age, and never, and i really mean NEVER, have i seen a kingdom lose as badly as yours!
The biggest advantage i have seen was 128, and that didn't even last 2 days!

You may think that eventually we'll want to stop this war, and eventually we'll grow tired of it....but the fact is, we're WINNING, it will be a long time before we ever get tired of WINNING!

And then you threaten our king, but can't even harm him, what's up with that? When you threaten someone, you should have the POWER to back your threats up, obviously your kingdom doesn't have that.

The fact is, that we can destroy each and everyone of your provinces if we set our minds to it, we ARE that organized.
I have been against completely killing provinces, because that normally doesn't encourage a surrender, it just creates hatred between the 2 kingdoms.
But this can really change if you continue to be so stubborn and not accept defeat...think to yourself, what do you lose if you surrender? And what do you lose if you continue this war?
Those are your ONLY options, there is absolutely NO grounds for mutual peace.

Think about it, would you rather lose 5% of your honor, or your acres AND your honor? And noone will know that you lost a war, the record doesn't show on your kingdom page.

Was it too long? Too harsh?

[Lemmy]

July 8th, YR1 Alcoholic Union (26:20) has surrendered to us! Our people rejoice at our victory!

I wonder if it was my message that made him surrender.

And now back to exploring.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Lemmy
The fact is, that we can destroy each and everyone of your provinces if we set our minds to it, we ARE that organized.

Nice bluff you called there

Congratulations, mate


As for the War my KD is currently engaged in: the opponent Monarch appears to be a paranoid bastard gone ape****: he doesn't show up to accept our Peace-offer, and he is reluctant to offer Peace himself.
There are no other ways of getting out of the situation, the War's been equal, and the War meter shows that.

[War4ever]

uuuuuuuuuuuuugh....i hate wars like that .....just accept the damm peace and move on, war wins really don't give alot of honor, and lets be honest, most of the noobs arn't palying for honor anyways

[Lemmy]

My kingdom does play for honor...even though i started the era for NW, so i knew we would never accept peace.
And we were growing rather well, so it wasn't a drag on us yet.

[Zopperoni]

Well, this morning, our opponents finally accepted our Peace offer after we released a massive offensive on them last night.

I gained about 230 acres without reply this War; not bad for a Faery/Mystic

[star mouse]

Originally posted by War4ever
uuuuuuuuuuuuugh....i hate wars like that .....

We've already fought 2 wars like that this age. Nasty, brutal affairs with dragons and copious razes. So far this age we have decimated 2 enemy kingdoms.

Both targets were chosen by looking at our news and seeing which kingdoms have attacked us the most, especially those who over-react to a random grab by hitting several times. That is the mark of the disorganised. So don't mess with us if you're in our war range.

4 enemy provinces have died so far, including one monarch who deleted himself. The weak provinces in the enemy kingdoms perish, the strong provinces survive. We're thinning the herd, so to speak.

We have 2 war wins from 2 hostiles.

[Lemmy]

I'll be staying at this size for while and have a little science pump...

The Province of Whoosj (6:20)
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Utopian Date: February 16th, YR2
RL Date: January 30th, 2003 (21:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: Sir Lemmy the Rogue
Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling
Land: 1,238 Acres
Money: 86gc (41,937gc raw daily income)
Food: 106,908 bushels
Runes: 25,927 runes
Population: 33,480 citizens (27.04 per Acre)
Peasants: 13,528 (100% Employed)
Excited: b:100%, t:3.1gc, p:103%, m:104%
Trade Balance: 309,877gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 156,700 (126.58 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 32,692gc

Soldiers: 10 (58% estimated draft rate)
Spearmen: 464 (1,856 offense points)
Archers: 13,584 (54,336 defense points)
Half-Giants: 385 (1,540 offense / 1,925 defense)
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0

Total Attack points: 3,416 (2.76 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 1,876 (1.52 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 56,281 (45.46 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 56,281 (45.46 per Acre)

Thieves: 4,984 (4.03 per Acre / 98% Stealth)
Wizards: 525 (0.42 per Acre / 60% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 5,449 (4.40 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 4,087 (3.30 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 1,294 (1.05 per Acre)

Buildings: 660gc to build, 660gc to raze
Away bonus: 67,640gc (12h) / 202,920gc (20h)

[star mouse]

Just another day at the office ...

A Dragon ravages the lands!

Some fool kingdom decided to declare us hostile 12 hours before we were going to declare a hostile of our own, and they are paying the price for it. The war meter's 2 to 1 in our favour despite them being nearly 10% bigger than us at the time of their hostile declaration. Now they are smaller than us.

I guess they will be surrendering soon. If they do, it's 3 war wins for us from 3 hostiles....

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by Lemmy
I'll be staying at this size for while and have a little science pump...

The Province of Whoosj (6:20)

Total Attack points: 3,416 (2.76 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 1,876 (1.52 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 56,281 (45.46 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 56,281 (45.46 per Acre)

That's a pretty risky DPA you have there...

[War4ever]

we got our second war win, and just finished a good haard fought war...good fun this age.

[Lemmy]

That's a pretty risky DPA you have there...

Not really...i'm on WoL, remember, it seems 35 dpa is normal around here.
But i worked on it, i increased my housing science, so my happinesss wouldn't drop

Total Attack points: 3,772 (3.00 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 2,296 (1.83 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 65,365 (51.96 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 65,365 (51.96 per Acre)

[War4ever]

were going to get our third win of the age....hehe we just pounded on these guys...their poor king , we learned attacked him like 4-5 times then took his land, when he woke up i bet he was WTF

[Lemmy]

Gah...people are stubborn on WoL..we've been winning a war with 120+ in our favor for 2 or 3 days now, and still they didn't surrender...they offered peace, we decided to accept it and move on this time. They were moving out of our nw-range anyway