UFO: Aftermath

[Raion]

All right then!!

Superheroic!
Universal Soldier!

Give a yell at the screen, we're going in!

Can't wait, but I have to!



Superheroic!
Super!

[Demelain]

you can queue almost anything
you can tell your guy to shoot at an alien until it dies, then take a few steps to get in range of next target then shoot that until its dead, then switch to a launcher then fire it at a wall
just an example
i have yet to run into a cue limit, waypoints seems to be unlimited so it would make sence if orders are to. u can ofcourse also cancel all of these moves at any time u want. also your orders make up a "plan" wich is the term used in the game

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by DrSpike
UR I'm having trouble with your argument here. I mean, I lock my door at night..........I don't think my neighbours are thieves but I'm not willing to take the chance.

That's not the same.

I paid for the game, I own it. How is it the same as your neighbour's house?

[Raion]

Well, I really do not know about the copy protection, but I know that it is there. Maybe some people had a problem with it, but I sure it is just the same type of thing, that goes on with all games.
So the game as I see it, is only $39.95, I think from looking at prices, (may be higher at a store??), but I think the game will be alright. It is different, that is sure, but then, if waiting for anything else, I not into FPS, and this will be a strategy game, and the aliens are in already, Czech Republic, Romania, Germany, England, France, Sinapore, and several other places.

Sometimes, I think that the aliens are winning the battle!
I suppose that they will be here soon!

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Raion

Sometimes, I think that the aliens are winning the battle!
I suppose that they will be here soon!

I think there's alredy one posting in this thread.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

That's not the same.

I paid for the game, I own it. How is it the same as your neighbour's house?

I don't lock my neighbours door............I lock my door. It's exactly the same. It wont stop a determined burglar, but it will probably help. And I'm not calling non-thieves thieves by doing so.

Besides, you didn't address the rest of the post. Your position needs some fleshing out here UR - at the moment, although I can see where you are coming from, it is nonetheless silly.

[Raion]

I have to press page 4 then page 5 to get to these posts in this thread.

A player can 'crouch' in the game.

Some players are finding the game difficult, and have stated so, by claiming that (in the initial days the game was out) that they had to reload a saved game 50 times to beat some tatical missions.

something like 'plot missions' that the player has to do, rather than other missions, that can be played or delegated.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Raion
I have to press page 4 then page 5 to get to these posts in this thread.

A player can 'crouch' in the game.

Some players are finding the game difficult, and have stated so, by claiming that (in the initial days the game was out) that they had to reload a saved game 50 times to beat some tatical missions.

Bah, the sisses probably just can't stand losing a few soldiers. I've lost my entire force in a couple missions (particularily at the start,when I didn't know how to react to certain aliens) it's not the end of the game when that happens. And even now that I've got good equipment and some really skilled soldiers, I still consider myself lucky if I get back from a mission with everyone alive.

If you're one of those people that has to have a flawless game without ever taking a loss, you'll deffinately find it hard. If you can accept defeat every now and then, you'll find it pleasantly challanging, but not annoyingly difficult. (It might be different on the hard difficulty, though. I've only played at normal)

[DrSpike]

I'm glad it's not easy............if anything it makes me more likely to get it.

[Raion]

According to them, it still needs some balance to it.

It will get even harder, later on!
But at least, one can not just throw proximity mines at the door and wait at the UFO.

I think a game with a challenge is fine by me!
Although, they may need a patch, so that it plays a little different, but then, I still am waiting to pick it up, so how do I know? I do not!

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Raion
According to them, it still needs some balance to it.

I personally don't like 'balance'. When everything is 50/50, you don't need to use strategy. Having enemies that can kill your soldiers in a matter of seconds forces you to use your brain to avoid such a situation. Whenver I spot an alien that I reconize as a major threat, I don't just stand there and plink away at it with a pistol - I get my agents behind cover and set up an ambush.

Of course, it goes the other way too. Some of the aliens pose virtually no threat at all to your agents.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Osweld


I personally don't like 'balance'. When everything is 50/50, you don't need to use strategy. Having enemies that can kill your soldiers in a matter of seconds forces you to use your brain to avoid such a situation. Whenver I spot an alien that I reconize as a major threat, I don't just stand there and plink away at it with a pistol - I get my agents behind cover and set up an ambush.

I think this misses the point of the balance debate. You don't need to use strategy when the game is unbalanced, since one or more strategies are overpowered, and some possibilities underpowered. Balancing is about increasing strategic depth and opportunities, not reducing it. In the example with the powerful alien, as long as there are adequate counters (like those you describe), you can call it balanced.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by DrSpike


I think this misses the point of the balance debate. You don't need to use strategy when the game is unbalanced, since one or more strategies are overpowered, and some possibilities underpowered. Balancing is about increasing strategic depth and opportunities, not reducing it. In the example with the powerful alien, as long as there are adequate counters (like those you describe), you can call it balanced.

I rarely see people take strategy into consideration when talking about balance. They just look at the numbers and demand that each side has equal capabilities, ect..

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by DrSpike
I don't lock my neighbours door............I lock my door. It's exactly the same.

No. Copy protecting a game that I legitimately bought has nothing in parallel with your analogy it seems.

Originally posted by DrSpike
Besides, you didn't address the rest of the post.

What's there to address?

Originally posted by DrSpike
it is nonetheless silly

No, the publisher is saying, "If we allow you to copy the game, you will sell it to other people. So screw you!"

[Raion]

I guess there are many types of balance. I trying to think of what balance they are talking about. But, I think there will be another patch.

I guess one has to play it awhile, more than 20 hrs worth to really get into the game, and do whatever it is that is being done.

I just think that it takes some time to learn how to play it, and whatever, next I find out, it probably would be better to have the game to know what it is that I thought that I was refering to.

I read so much, and such, it is hard to take it all in, better just to play it maybe, and find out for myself.

I think I will end up probably playing it better than Civ3, which seems that I just did not want to spend any more time with that game, but may some day.

It is hard to go by players who wanted this or that in the game, and although that may make it better, it takes longer to do, and more engine to do it with.

So, as far as I understand the game, it appears to not be too bad, but as always could be better.

I suppose once I have it, like some others, people never hear from them again for awhile!

Right now, my brain is mush from reading about it all, so........might as well wait, and see, what I think about it.

Unfortunately, copy protection is a fact of life. If I have to register to activate the software, I guess, I will end up programming my own, though.

And the only thing that I had to activate was VisualStudio.NET, and as such, if games go the way of the dodo bird due to others, I guess a lot of people will either accept it, and put up with it, or bypass it all, somehow.

Anyway, more time is needed for anything!
But, I do not really like the way that it is going, although I have not thought of an alternative to all of the activation or copy protection myself, although, I keep also thinking about that.

But then, I do not have to follow the lead, just put up with it, but I do remember when, the Internet was done, and all that was thought, was, people could not activate their precious XP system, till the Internet came back up.

I run Win2k Professional, and Windows 98SE, right now, I can not even put in my new harddisk, because it does have XP on it, but I need a newer graphic card. I have not been to the store yet lately, because last time, they did not have what I wanted. So, activation is not needed by me at this time, and Windows 2005 may come out, but I gave up on Windows a long time ago. I just have to use it, but all the hassle means that other people may come out with something else, eventually!

That type of balance to the game I guess!
Otherwise, I will have to remember better, and I just remembered that, it may not make that much difference to me anymore.