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  • #16
    I agree with the rarity idea, but if the Restricted cards aren't banned, then at the very least they should probably receive their own special "rarity" category, particularly since IIRC some of the cards on the Restricted list aren't actually "rare."
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    • #17
      ok, sounds l**** a good idea

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      • #18
        according to my rarity idea, this would define the rarities that people would have a chance at

        a Seventh Edition
        b Classic (Sixth Edition)
        b Fifth Edition
        c Fourth Edition
        c Revised Edition
        d Alpha, Beta, Unlimited

        a Onslaught block Scourge Legions Onslaught
        a Odyssey block Judgment Torment Odyssey
        a Invasion block Apocalypse Planeshift Invasion
        b Masques block Prophecy Nemesis Mercadian Masques
        b Urza block Urza's Destiny Urza's Legacy Urza's Saga
        b Tempest block Exodus Stronghold Tempest
        b Mirage block Weatherlight Visions Mirage
        b Ice Age block Alliances Homelands Ice Age
        c Fallen Empires
        c The Dark
        c Legends
        c Antiquities
        d Arabian Nights

        I am not sure if the invasion block should be a or b

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        Last edited by Jon Miller; June 1, 2003, 00:14.
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        • #19
          so if it was decided to play with the Black Lotus card (I think we shuold only play with the cards we want to, to make things easier) everyone would have 4 tries for the card

          so someone would say that they would like the Black Lotus - Alpha, Beta, Unlimited - R to be played with

          than the try that everyone would be attempting would be to get higher than a 96 (with random numbers between 0-99)

          every person would have 4 attempts at this (each try they would have a 3% chance of making)

          so if there were 10 people playing, there would be a good chance that someone woudl have a black lotus

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          • #20
            Anyone care to help me come up with a decent to good sliver deck for this game? Preferablly a 5 color one so I can try to take advantage of the Sliver Queen/Overlord.
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            • #21
              why don't you see what cards you end up with first ( )

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              • #22
                I need one IRL anyway.
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                • #23
                  hmm, yah

                  that is cool

                  is there another thread I can give suggestions in (I have played them only, never had the cards to make one)

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                  • #24
                    I have a better idea. Assign a number of points to each player, and assign costs to various cards according to rarity etc. So you can have a Beta Black Lotus if you want, but it'd be very expensive and the rest of your deck will be cheapo cards.
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                    • #25
                      Dinodoc:

                      PM me, and I can give you a hand.

                      What cards do you already have, and which ones do you need?

                      As for this Magic game idea, why don't we try sealed deck?

                      This way no one can complain about an unfair advantage. All we would need is a proper seed for the card rarity so people don't get Black Lotus too often.

                      Finally, we should stick with the Restricted cards depending on the block that we play, so again to reduce the power of cards like Black Lotus.

                      I'd definitely play with these ideas considered.
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                      • #26
                        I wish I had looked at this thread earlier. Everyone, go to

                        and download Apprentice. It's a Freeware Magic shuffler. No pictures, but it does have every card ever made and easily allow you to tap, draw, etc. There are no rules either- you can move phases along and everything, but you do all the ajudication yourself. There need not be a GM for deck drawing, because the program handles that- but things like death from combat damage, etc. are handled by you.

                        If you don't want unlimited "Build whatever deck you want" stuff, there's also a sealed deck option. We can say "You have one Starter pack of 4th edition + 2 Boosters of Chronicles" for old school, or a nice modern "1 starter of Onslaught, 2 boosters of Legions, 2 boosters of Scourge."

                        Edit: I will say that I'm not a huge fan of too much cross-temporal mixing though. I like sealed decks with synergy. For instance, the Invasion block's theme was "Color matters" and has lots of color hosers, but also really encourages you to play multiple colors with mana-fixers and off-color abilities.

                        As for trading, that could get a bit dicey. Especially with Sealed deck play. Say there are 6 players. 4 of them don't trade much or just a little. Player A, however, has an excellent Blue & White evasion deck, while Player B has a powerful Black & Green destruction + stompy deck. Player A says to Player B "I'll give you all my Green & Black cards in exchange for all your Blue & White cards." As a result, Player A & B's decks are far more powerful than everyone else's, since it's like they drafted twice the number of packs!
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                        • #27
                          I like corss temporal stuff, but we can do things

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                          • #28
                            don't no how to work it

                            Jon Miller
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                            • #29
                              One more thing.

                              There is a great freeware program that would help immensly.

                              Its called Magic Suitcase and has all cardlists, you can playtest your deck (shuffle and draw randomly) and there is stats about the deck (%of rares, ucommons and commons).

                              I havent chacked it for 5 years but it should be available...

                              We could play it without the "dealer", but no cheating...

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                              • #30
                                Well I downloaded the Apprentice program and got the error: this program must run under Win32. I downloaded the patch first for WinME, so I'm not sure what I did wrong.

                                Any clue snowfire?
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