Baghdad Protests US Troops!

[Jac de Molay]

I find it very hard to believe that a people that doesn't know what it wants("Come here and save us from saddam" No! Wait! Leave!) is going to being to be able to form a Fully-Functional, Autonomous, Democracy (tm) in any way, shape, or form.

What a cluster****.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by DetroitDave
I find it very hard to believe that a people that doesn't know what it wants("Come here and save us from saddam" No! Wait! Leave!) is going to being to be able to form a Fully-Functional, Autonomous, Democracy (tm) in any way, shape, or form.

Two things:

1. They know what they want. They don't like Saddam and they don't like US troops. Just because they don't like Saddam, doen't mean they like the US.

2. Just because they know what they want doesn't mean they want a democracy.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by LoneWolf
Oh, honestly, who cares? Saddam is gone. Does the reason we went really matter anymore? Or should we say "Oops, sorry Saddam, here is your country back, go ahead and rape and torture as you were?"

1. A lot of people care.
2. Yes, the reason matters. We now know the US doesn't have the faintest idea wrt Iraqi NCB weapons, at least in terms of location, quantity, and type of weapons. Now we need to know how much more of what Bush & Co. uttered was pure crap.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


On a related note, Powell (whom I generally like, and for whom I will soon be working) was quoted as saying that the job of the US was now to "impose democracy on Iraq."

Show of hands, please: who here can tell me what's wrong with the phrase "impose democracy"? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller?

Democracy can't be imposed?

Like, it has to be won dude ya know

[Drake Tungsten]

Democracy can't be imposed?

Tell that to the Japanese and the Germans.

[Bereta_Eder]

They earned it.
And certaintly didn't do it for the first time.

[Chris 62]

"I truly must question the judgment of any President who can say that a massive unprovoked military attack on a nation which is over 50% children is 'in the highest moral traditions of our country.'" -- Sen. Robert Byrd, 12.02.03

You should quote his Klan rantings, they are just as relivent.
So, he's a hero of yours?

[Drake Tungsten]

And certaintly didn't do it for the first time.

That's a debatable statement in Japan's case...

[Bereta_Eder]

What's not debatable though is that Iraq has always been in stability when a dictator was in power.

I'm not saying that democracy in Iraq is not possible, but it might not be what the US would like.

[Drake Tungsten]

What's not debatable though is that Iraq has always been in stability when a dictator was in power.

So was Greece.

I'm not saying that democracy in Iraq is not possible, but it might not be what the US would like.

What does this have to do with anything? You said democracy can't be imposed. I gave you two examples of when it was imposed and worked out. You responded with some inane statement about them "deserving it". It's pretty clear I was right, so what the hell are we talking about now?

[Bereta_Eder]

So was Greece? Hardly.

We're talking about Iraq not having a democracy ever and you wanting to impose it.

Clearly that's what's inane.

The first thing a democracy would say is get the hell out of here and watch after its own interests. Which are not your own.

[Drake Tungsten]

The first thing a democracy would say is get the hell out of here and watch after its own interests. Which are not your own.

What exactly is the reasoning behind this statement?

Wait a minute. Did I just ask paiktis for "reasoning"?

[Bereta_Eder]

LOL...

yeah and I'm talking with an american

[Bereta_Eder]

What you basically need is some more 11 Septs, then you'll wise up

[Drake Tungsten]

There's the troll we all know and love.