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Have anti US demos? Are you kidding? 
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Be fair paiktis, they are protesting Saddam also.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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It was a joke, thus the cool smilie
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Ah... apologies.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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I actually think the fundies have good chances to gather much support in the near future.
Saddam has completely barred the road to power to the Imams. Religion wasn't a significant political force, and was only used to gather more support by the regime (in the few last months of it, when the regime wasn't laicist anymore)
The Imams know the current period is the time they can get to power, and they'll use the religious frustration of the population to gather support. The Sunnis will use the legitimate fear that Sunnis will suffer from revenge, and the Shiites will use the willingness to 'get back what is due'. Except if the Sunni fundamentalists are massively supported by the Sauds, I think the Shiites will win this one because they are more organized.
The complete absence of traditional political parties in Iraq (exiled parties don't count) means the divisions of the society will be handled by the only organized factions present : Kurd nationalists and religious organizations.
It is not sure Iraq will go fundy. But it is not unlikely, and efforts should be made to avoid it."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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Here's also stuff that is going on now that couldn't go on under Saddam. I'm really happy to see him go, the rat bastard.
Last edited by DanS; April 18, 2003, 15:54.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Not unexpected. For most Iraqis, the preferred order of things is
1. Elected leader
2. Foreign White Guys who can't speak their language.
3. Saddam
They celebrated because they moved up one on the ladder. However they want to continue moving up, and can't if US troops still reign.
BTW I think it's really funny that some of you guys are like "Yay, they're unhappy!"
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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i still say we shoot all the protesters as an example and say "you're not free yet, you morons, sit the f*ck down.""I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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And yet, so many disagree with people protesting here. Not just what they say, but the fact that we do it at all. Apparently we're traitors here.Originally posted by C0ckney
i agree with dan, it's good to see these people being able to protest freely.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Have the Americans pla...er... found any WoMD yet?Comment
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Che, is the alliance between the Kurd communist party, the Kurd patriotic front and the US holding?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Iraqi opinion is split. Right now, many are pissed because the US, the new sheriff in town, stood around and watched while gangs of thugs ran around and destroyed what was left of Iraq's infrastructure. (Good job,
.) Iraq, however, is not homogenous, and many people are happy the Americans are there.
The trick really is to get Iraq functioning quickly and set up a government that will be able to survive the inevatible civil war. The question is, will the US be there when it starts? If so, it will take the form of a war of liberation against the US.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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Sava, make up your mind. We had a good discussion the other day about what Milosevic was really trying to do in Bosnia and Kosovo, and now you are waving the radical Islamic flag?Originally posted by Sava
I can't post this enough!http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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i think he's more interested in the fact that the Iraqis themsleves don't want a US-Friendly regime (or, what America would call friendly)Originally posted by Ned
Sava, make up your mind. We had a good discussion the other day about what Milosevic was really trying to do in Bosnia and Kosovo, and now you are waving the radical Islamic flag?"I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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Uber: Some Iraqis don't want...Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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well, we need more pro-american demonstrations. that initial "thank you for liberating us" stuff doesn't counter this.Originally posted by Oerdin
Uber: Some Iraqis don't want..."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott CardComment
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