Should there be a Kurdish State?

[Japher]

Not my place to say... However, if they do get their own country there will be a lot of problems, and if they don't there will still be a lot of problems. I am just glad I am not the one to decide.

[chequita guevara]

Yes, they should have their own state, with the capital in Diyarbakir.

[Bereta_Eder]

why are we having our freedom and serbs and albanians and bulgarians and israel and egypt and everyone but not the kurds?

tsnot fair man

[Al'Kimiya]

every ethnicity should have one country, and one only, and forcefully moved there

[Ubergeek]

No, Paiktis, it isn't fair. No question about it. So what? Life, as the saying goes, is not fair. The world is not fair. Some people have more burdens to carry than others, and some peoples end up getting trampled on. That's just the way it is, and there's absolutely nothing anybody can do about it.

Examining the situation, we see that the Kurds are divided up among three different countries, each of which are more powerful than any proposed Kurdistan and none of which are inclined to allow an independent Kurdistan to exist. The only way for an independent Kurdistan to exist for any appreciable length of time is for foreign troops -- and a lot of them -- to be posted there indefinitely to keep all the sides apart. Think about it in personal terms: how many Greek soldiers would you be willing to see die and how much Greek treasure would you be willing to see spent in that pursuit?

It isn't fair at all.

[Bereta_Eder]

forced relocation of populations between greece and turkey

ah the memeoris

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Al'Kimiya
every ethnicity should have one country, and one only, and forcefully moved there

I agree.

Since Usian, Australian, New Zealander, and Canadian are not ethicities, we move them all back to the UK.

More land for everybody else.

[gsmoove23]

Give me a break, no they don't deserve a state. Why, so they can persecute the Turks within their borders, or the arabs or shiites.

[orange]

yes, but if this is the case, they should relinquish their claim to any areas of Turkey. Kurdistan should be Northern Iraq...and should not include parts of Turkey or Iran.

[GePap]

If I remember correctly, this admin. has stated that the Territorial integrty of Iraq is sacrosant. That means, no Kurdish state in Iraq. No Kurdish state in Iraq, none in Turkey and certainly none in Iran or Syria.

Seems simple enough.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by orange
yes, but if this is the case, they should relinquish their claim to any areas of Turkey. Kurdistan should be Northern Iraq...and should not include parts of Turkey or Iran.

So they're only entitled to a sliver of their historical lands? The majority of Kurdistan is in Turkey

[Bereta_Eder]

so they can not be burned pu by whatever petty regime rules irak turkey or iraq at any given time.

thats reason enough

who are u to say they dont deserve a state?


thats silly man

[JCG]

Provided it doesn't make the region explode, of course.

[GePap]

Originally posted by paiktis22
so they can not be burned pu by whatever petty regime rules irak turkey or iraq at any given time.

thats reason enough

who are u to say they dont deserve a state?


thats silly man

I don;t think "nations" 'deserve' states. people deserve states that respect thier way of life, that is all they need.

[Sava]

Yes, the Kurds deserve an independent state. They deserve to be free from Turkish oppression and if they want to grow their own democracy next to a free Iraq, I see no problems to this. I find it terribly hypocritical that many opponents of a free-Kurdish-state supported military action were against then-Yugoslavia when they tried to prevent secession of the historical Kosovo lands.

The Turkish atrocities against the Kurds were just as brutal as Saddams'. Yet they are a great bastion for freedom, democracy, and peace? Bullsh1t. Sure, Turkey is semi-democratic... if you're Turkish.