Damn the French they have gone TOO far!

[Arrian]

Hmm.

I'll go with...

.5/10. Demerit for making the troll obvious by actually claiming ethnic superiority.

-Arrian

[KrazyHorse]

In that war the brits grafted away to win, while the french were cowardly surrendering white flag wavers

Thank God for the valiant 3 week stand of the BEF. Dunkirk showed those German buggers what the Brits were made of. Or at least what their backside looked like...

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think the troll was pretty good. People got roped in.

[Worthingtons]

The French arent really of a different ethnic background anyway, my point is that we fought and we grafted, they didnt. Would you disagree that protecting you're wife and children fromt the army of a dangerous dictator is a good quality? and I suppose you'd argue that surrending is a GOOD one!??!

[KrazyHorse]

Coming from Rothy it's not a troll...

And doesn't getting "roped in" usually involve being angry? When I read the "better PEOPLE" line I literally burst out laughing.

[KrazyHorse]

The French arent really of a different ethnic background anyway

Yes they are.

[Arrian]

Really? I just smirked and assumed it was in jest.

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-Arrian

[Menlas]

Originally posted by Rothy
The French arent really of a different ethnic background anyway, my point is that we fought and we grafted, they didnt.

And the fact there was a sea between you and the germans counts for nothing, i suppose...

Hmm, those trolls

[Worthingtons]

Fine, I'll have it that whenever you cross a border where people still share common ancestors there is ALWAYS ethnic differences - since this isnt the point.

My Point was too close to the line so you jump on the 'racism' boat, even the post actually get's to the route of the problem.

In the two Wars we Proved that not had we better equipment ect, our PEOPLE came through to win the war for us. ever heard how heavy London took it during the initial stages of WW2? the tactic was to dampen the morale of our people so much that we would surrender, and such simular tactics employed in France had frenchmen running for thier white flags whilst in England it only brought us closer than ever and increased our determination.

But I suppose it's too much for some to suggest the people of one nation have greater determination and courage than that of another regardless of what history proves.

[the_ceebs]

On a discussion site for newspaper/media types earlier today, I saw that some people thought it was the work of Anti-european brits or one of the more pro-war newspapers.
Their support for this argument?

1). The cemetary that was desecrated is the closest to the entrance of the channel tunnel.

2).The word rosbif (a french slang term for the english) is spelled rosbeef. This is not a misspelling that a Frenchman would make.

[KrazyHorse]

ever heard how heavy London took it during the initial stages of WW2

Really now. As heavy as the French took it in both wars? Not even close.

The Allies weren't prepared for the new method of warfare employed by the Germans. Not the French, and not the British who ran just as fast from the initial onslaught as the French did.

If France had had 20 miles of open water protecting them and Britain had been the one bordering Germany then you'd have gone under just as quick...

[Arrian]

I think leadership was also a factor, Frogger.

-Arrian

[Worthingtons]

An Attempt to 'draw people in' perhaps, but you cannot ignore the points.

Frogger, you need to distinguish between a surrender and a tactical retreat - The French gave up thier Capital!

In our retreat many normal folk sailed over to dunkirk risking thier life and ignoring any other commitments to pick up our soldiers.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Arrian
I think leadership was also a factor, Frogger.

-Arrian

Indeed. Chamberlain might have drawn the Brits down in less than 6 weeks.

[Worthingtons]

Yes, Chamberlain was a weak leader. Churchill was a very strong leader, although i dont think the British spirit during WW2 can be totally accredited to him.