Damn the French they have gone TOO far!

[Pekka]

But for the actual topic here, I found this act absolutely disgusting. How can someone do that to hurt others? A bit extreme? Everyone should just keep within the rules of attacks, like no harrasing of the dead.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by cyclotron7


That seems clearly self-evident to me, so I see no reason to waste time pointing it out to the French. Why is it we need to convince you of anything?

I answered Ned, who wondered how to put the French left side by side with the US again. Now, I understand the US doesn't care of the French left. After all, the Bush admin didn't seem to worry about anyone outside the US.

[KrazyHorse]

I find it disgusting too. But I usually object to a characterisation of an entire nation due to acts of its lowest denominator...

[Pekka]

Frogger, thank God You know if someone really wants to anger me into flaming fury, they can just start making fun of that or otherwise being stupid about it. I didn't mean your earlier post did that, but if people really start teasing about it and using it (the war in any possible way), I'll come out my both hands swinging .

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Rothy
Geography cannot tell the whole story, few nations have freely deserted thier capital without putting up a tremendous fight. Being next Germany I'm sure didnt help, but hey where the hell did those troops in the 'maginot line' go ?

They were trapped and were unable to reconnect with their supply line or break out of the pocket in time to make themselves useful...

[Pekka]

Originally posted by Frogger
I find it disgusting too. But I usually object to a characterisation of an entire nation due to acts of its lowest denominator...

Yeah I agree. It's not the French as nation or people, just some buttholes that happens to be very extreme and stupid. You know by doing this kind of thing, you're asking serious trouble. I mean, I see that kind of action so dangerous, that if they get caught, they could even get killed very easily by angry relatives etc.
I know if that happened to my folks, I'd be thirsty for serious blood.

[Dinner]

It's just a few meat heads running around acting like fools.

[Sandman]

Geography cannot tell the whole story, few nations have freely deserted thier capital without putting up a tremendous fight. Being next Germany I'm sure didnt help, but hey where the hell did those troops in the 'maginot line' go ?

Well, Russia let Napoleon enter Moscow I believe, and Britain torched Washington during the 1812 war.

As for the maginot line troops, they paid in blood for relying on static defenses.

Back on topic, 'Rosbeef' is spelt wrongly. Could this have been done by the Sun to make a story?

[Worthingtons]

Frogger - You've pieced it together for it me now - those in thier supply line must have left Paris to go and 'resupply' the Maginot line!, that's it was deserted when the germans arrived

Pekka, These stupid people who commit such crimes probably did not have the capacity to consider the impications of thier actons if caught - I hope they are caught tho, regardless of where they are from and who they represent. It's also funny to see that almost ever condemnable action at the moment seems to have a counter claim....

[Pekka]

Rothy, what counter claim?
I sure hope these thugs will be caught too. It's in the best interest of France, so I expect they do everything they can and I think they will succeed.
But this thing is just not some prank. This goes beyond. Only sick person could think of it as a prank. You could do so many other things to insult others, but right now, I can't think of anything worse.

[Spiffor]

Originally written by The Sun
Anti-British feeling has been whipped up in France since President Jacques Chirac refused to let the UN back action against Iraq.

I may live in a fantasy world, but I didn't see any significant increase of anti-Brit feeling. There is an old French tradition to mock the Brits or be annoyed by them every time they get in our way, but I didn't see any difference since the beginning of the Iraqi crisis I may live in a fantasy world though.

Menlas, did you see any difference ?


Oh, and on the WW2 topic : Please check Marc Bloch's Strange Defeat to have a clear explanation of the French defeat and desperation, which isn't stupid nor self-complacent.
If you want a summary, go there (sorry, I'm tired to write the same posts over and over again)

[KrazyHorse]

I especially like how France "refused to let the UN back action against Iraq"

All 14 other countries on the SC were, of course, firmly behind the US.

And of course there's been no anti-French feeling in the US or UK...

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Spiffor
I answered Ned, who wondered how to put the French left side by side with the US again. Now, I understand the US doesn't care of the French left. After all, the Bush admin didn't seem to worry about anyone outside the US.

Is there are reason we should care about the French left? After the best-selling book after 9-11 in France was about how we put on 9-11 ourselves, I lost any previous interest I had in catering to French interest.

I mean, I'm sure you're all nice people, but why should we care what your opinions of us are?

[Thorn]

You pompous canadians should be blitzed too, America should make Quebec a WASTELAND.

Stupid French, I am so upset I've been told all my life how bad the French are, but I never believed it until now. Now your country is finished I shall see to that, I'm giving Germany the bomb!!!!

[MOBIUS]

Hey Spiff,

How do you frogs spell 'Rosbif' anyway?

It is 'Rosbif' and not 'Rosbeef' - or are both equally accepted?

It's just that I saw it spelled 'Rosbeef' in the picture I saw...?

The French arent really of a different ethnic background anyway, my point is that we fought and we grafted, they didnt. Would you disagree that protecting you're wife and children fromt the army of a dangerous dictator is a good quality? and I suppose you'd argue that surrending is a GOOD one!??!

Rothy, you still haven't addressed the fact that the English Channel saved us - because it and Op. Dynamo were about the only things that kept us in the war at that time...

Just cos you're obviously blinded by you hatred for the French, doesn't mean you should disparage the French ability to fight when we were rolled up good by the Krauts too!

And I take it you have forgotten about the incredible bravery of Free French under De Gaulle, or the Maquis?

Only one thing saved us from defeat and that is Geography...

It's been serving us well for almost a thousand years and is better than the maginot line ever could be...