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And, of course, the MiG-23 which was used very effectively by the Cuban and Angolan Air Forces against South Africa; also used very well by Iraq against Iran.
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And the South African built Rooivalk, a very capable helicopter with laser guided munitions etc. At US$10-11 million I say it's a steal.Attached FilesComment
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The Chengdu J-7MF isn't exactly state of the art but it's quite an impressive display of Chinese engineering. The cranked delta wing and leading edge control surfaces give the plane 45% better agility than the MiG-21. These planes are now being aquired by Pakistan as the F-7PG:Attached FilesComment
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The AlphaJet advanced trainer/close support jet is probably the best in its class; it can carry almost any air to ground munition including laser and TV guided. This is a line up of Nigerian Alphas:Attached FilesComment
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Feh. Knock off of a Mig 21....Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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Wow. Non-Western aircraft sure do suck...KH FOR OWNER!
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Wow. Non-Western aircraft sure do suck...
EDIT: naw, some of those Russian planes are really cool.. but thats about it."I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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piffft...Originally posted by Carver
The J-10 and the Sukhoi Su-35 (below) are certainly the most cost effective warplanes available at ~$20 million and $35 million respectively:
The F-16 Fighting Falcon (
)costs a mere $14.6 million each, and its a good bet it is a superior plane...
"I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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Originally posted by Carver
The Chengdu J-7MF isn't exactly state of the art but it's quite an impressive display of Chinese engineering. The cranked delta wing and leading edge control surfaces give the plane 45% better agility than the MiG-21.
The J-7 ??!!
And 45% more agility than a MiG-21 is tantamount to a dead cat having being 45% more agile than another dead cat.Comment
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Maybe that was the original price when the F-16 was first coming out in the late 70s early 80s, but these days a new F-16 runs about $30 million.Originally posted by Kramerman
piffft...
The F-16 Fighting Falcon ( )costs a mere $14.6 million each, and its a good bet it is a superior plane...
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an Su-27 is a high peformance air superiority fighter of the F-15 type; If the Su-27 is much more powerful and dangerous than the F-16, the certainly the Su-35 is a better machine as well.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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F-16 and Su- 27 have not met yet. F-15 vs Mig-29 is zero lost for the F-15 and 2, 3 or 4, for the Mig-29.Comment
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Whoah! That looks like Firefox!!!Originally posted by Carver
The MiG 1.42, which will not be built due to its cost:
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.Attached FilesWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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My original information came out of a recent magazine, but I found this info on the netMaybe that was the original price when the F-16 was first coming out in the late 70s early 80s, but these days a new F-16 runs about $30 million.
F-16 Fact SheetUnit cost: F-16A/B , $14.6 million (fiscal 98 constant dollars); F-16C/D,$18.8 million (fiscal 98 constant dollars)Last edited by Kramerman; April 2, 2003, 00:43."I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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