The "Pictures of the World's Coolest Aircraft" Thread

[Az]

I think the best combo is Russian Jets with Western armaments.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Ted Striker


Whoah! That looks like Firefox!!!

http://www.clinteastwood.net/welcome2.html

No Firefox looks like the XB-70 (see first pic in thread).

[Straybow]

Originally posted by Agathon
It's a bit mean to pit the Spit against the Mustang since it is effectively next generation technology.

Yeah, but even for it's day the Spitfire wasn't first rate. It was a little slow. It didn't have fuel injection, standard for others of the day. It couldn't pull neg gees, not more than half a gee from level flight to a moderate dive. Had to roll a point first, which gave the Gerries another edge.

Not that the American planes from the late 30s were any better. P-38 was no good until the supercharged version (effectively, next generation engine). Zero and Me109 were the best of that generation.

Ahh, the P-38. Gotta love its unique beauty.

[Straybow]

LOL 45% more agile than a dead cat

Originally posted by Carver
… Chengdu J-7 …

C'mon, if we're gonna rebuild an aged airframe, do it right. Drop an F-16 engine into an F-5 airframe and you get an incredibly inexpensive F-20. But GE had better connections to sell the export version of the F-16, so nobody wanted to buy the Tigershark.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Joseph
F-16 and Su- 27 have not met yet. F-15 vs Mig-29 is zero lost for the F-15 and 2, 3 or 4, for the Mig-29.

It's just about impossible to make comparisons like that, because no comparably equiped, trained and funded airforces have squared off with some of the newest equipment. I don't think it's going out on a limb at all to say that if the Iraqis (for example) were equipped with F-16s or F-15s and the Americans with Mig-29s or Su-27s, and keeping the discrepancy of training, maintenance, upgrade packages, etc,, you'd see a few more downed F-16s and F-15s.

[GePap]

Is the F-16 equal to the F-15? No. The F-16 is a lighter, more manueverable but less powerful craft than the huge and very expensive and powerful F-15. Well, the Su-27 is much like the F-15 in size, power, and payload.
As Konti said: if the US does so well against soviet craft is because they are not only usually faicing pilots with less training, without the benefit of long range AWACS and usually with inferior avionics. That is the key difference here: the soviets made great airframes, but had lesser electronics and support. Put modern avionics in a soviet airframe, and you have great fighters.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Serb

F*cking hilarious beast

Those emoticons sure helped in dissuading my interest in them though, you uneducated moron

[Thorgal]

Some usefull relations:
Mig-29 == F-16 or F-18
Su-27 == F-15

[Carver]

Originally posted by Kramerman


My original information came out of a recent magazine, but I found this info on the net

Actually, it looks like $30 million would be for a lightly equiped F-16. The March 2002 issue of Air Forces Monthly describes the following deals:

A UAE puchase of 80 F-16C/D Block 60 planes at $6.4 billion ($80 million each) for aircraft and spares, but not weapons.

An Islraeli purchase of 50 F-16D Block 50/60 planes at $2.5 billion ($50 million) each.

An Egyptian order for 24 slightly older F-16C/D Block 40 jets at $1 billion ($41 million each).

And Bahrain has opted to purchase 10 new F-16C/D for $300 million.

IIRC some European countries were permitted to buy US warplanes at highly subsidized prices a few years ago. Otherwise 30 beans seems to be the minimum for a new build plane.

[Lonestar]

Carver; we also sold the "code" for the 'puter with it.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Carver


Actually, it looks like $30 million would be for a lightly equiped F-16. The March 2002 issue of Air Forces Monthly describes the following deals:

A UAE puchase of 80 F-16C/D Block 60 planes at $6.4 billion ($80 million each) for aircraft and spares, but not weapons.

An Islraeli purchase of 50 F-16D Block 50/60 planes at $2.5 billion ($50 million) each.

An Egyptian order for 24 slightly older F-16C/D Block 40 jets at $1 billion ($41 million each).

And Bahrain has opted to purchase 10 new F-16C/D for $300 million.

IIRC some European countries were permitted to buy US warplanes at highly subsidized prices a few years ago. Otherwise 30 beans seems to be the minimum for a new build plane.

hmm... perhaps that is the export cost to other nations. I have two sources that say $14.8 million, but that seems like a huge difference between domestic and export prices. Perhaps 14.8 is for the bare minimum, stripped down airframe, before all the state-of-the art avionics are added in. i dunno, just trying to find the source of the discrepencies in our data

[Alinestra Covelia]

This beats the X-Wing hands down for Space Superiority Starfighter category. Pity it was mothballed after Zaarin's treachery.

(Warning - extremely esoteric video game reference!)

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Isn't it customary to put the warning first?...

[Kramerman]

(Warning - extremely esoteric video game reference!)

*wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*

I have the whole x-wing et al VG series... i havent played them in forever tho. I mainly keep them as a fond source of memories, adn as collectibles.

[Tattila the Hun]

Wow, high tech!



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