US losing faith in Canada

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Asher
Actually, YES.

DOn't wave your flag.
I know Cretin is quite stupid, but there are major players in the worldwide stupidity contest. And your neighbour's president happens to be the favourite candidate, my prez being the challenger
Cretin is small fish when compared with the stupidity of Bush.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
It is not "screwed".
(snipped offtopic crap)

Thanks for your input, totally irrelevant.

Canada, politically, is screwed.

That is spectacular success and would be trumpeted to the heavens if it happened in any other country. In the few years I've lived here I've been impressed and I've become attached to it.

Equally relevant, is that Calgary has consistently been rated as the cleanest city, is one of a select few major cities in North America to be designated as a "safe city" by the WHO, and we've also been named "World’s Top Intelligent Community of 2002".

Obviously, Calgary's politics are responsible for this.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by notyoueither

Optimally, there would be a Commons with a semblence of proportional representation based on pop, and an upper house based along some kind of regional lines.

That's a totally reasonable suggestion. I believe this is the first time I've ever agreed with anything you said.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Spiffor
DOn't wave your flag.
I know Cretin is quite stupid, but there are major players in the worldwide stupidity contest. And your neighbour's president happens to be the favourite candidate, my prez being the challenger
Cretin is small fish when compared with the stupidity of Bush.

Bush is actually quite a bit smarter than Chretien. The difference is Bush is a lot more extreme than Chretien, and people who don't know any better confuse it with stupidity.

They're both rather dumb, Bush is still brighter than Chretien.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by obiwan18
As for Yogic Flyers:

Sorry obi.. but for a LOT of us, hardline creationism is about as credible as levitating magicians.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man


Out of curiosity, how many votes did the Liberals get in AB and BC compared to the 'Alliance', and how many seats did they get?

The system cuts both ways.

Yup, it does. Unfortunately, the inequalities that count are in Ontario and Quebec. That is where the archaic system decides 19 out of 20 governments.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
The Forces are not an embarrasing.

It depends what you want to see.

To me, seeing them having to wait 6 months to get tan-colored Uniforms (forcing them to make their own uniforms for Afghanistan), buying their own radios at Future Shop since they're far better than the crap the forces gives them, seeing the copters crash regularly when they should have been replaced ages ago, seeing the very-pathetic-looking "Canadian Forces" booth at all career fairs and all over campus every month practically begging people to join them for a piddly salary -- yes, I think they're embarrassing.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Asher
The problem, you see, is Canada is screwed.

Not only is the system flawed, but the people have peculiar and unusual attitudes and there are no competent leaders, at all.

This is what happens when all your smart people move south.

You sound like Stockwell when he made that speech shortly after visiting some high tech firm near Ottawa that had several Americans working there. The brain drain isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and works both ways.

[Ben Kenobi]

STYOM:
Creationists don't spend all day trying to levitate.

My point was how does one's belief in creationism going to affect the job that they do as PM?

I don't agree with Stockwell Day, I find his creationism somewhat embarrasing as well.

But embarrassment is not a quality to dismiss someone as a PM.

Look at Chretien.

[Gatekeeper]

Based on the articles posted by Asher alone — and nothing else that's been added to this thread since then — I just wish *all* of our so-called political and academic leaders (regardless of nationality) would just shut up and concentrate on their jobs, rather than exchanging barbs.

Gatekeeper

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Asher

Thanks for your input, totally irrelevant.

Canada, politically, is screwed.

You know, if you are just going to troll then you won't be taken seriously. The reason that Canada does well is due to the kind of policies Canadian governments have upheld. I don't know what your definition of bad government is, but if a government that gets such good results is a "bad" government, then I say that the world needs more "bad" government.

Canada isn't screwed politically; it's the political right in Canada that is screwed because they can't get their act together.

And when have I ever criticised Klein's performance in Alberta? Never. I think he does a good job or he wouldn't have been around for so long. I think his separatist talk is silly but he's a competent premier, unlike Harris who allowed Ontarians to be poisoned.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Yup, it does. Unfortunately, the inequalities that count are in Ontario and Quebec. That is where the archaic system decides 19 out of 20 governments.

And rightly so, considering that Ontario and Quebec account for about 2/3 of the country's population.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Willem

You sound like Stockwell when he made that speech shortly after visiting some high tech firm near Ottawa that had several Americans working there. The brain drain isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and works both ways.

Who cares? There seems to be an endless supple of brainy Asian people who would love to come to Canada.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Willem
You sound like Stockwell when he made that speech shortly after visiting some high tech firm near Ottawa that had several Americans working there. The brain drain isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and works both ways.

That's right, it's all a lie.

Keep believing that. Hey, can you do me a favor?

Try to rationalize it by taking into account all of the immigrants we have which barely balance it out.

I loved it when the government did that. Who cares if people who lived here a while are so likely to move to the US once they start making real money? All the low-level positions keep getting replaced by immigrants, there is no brain-drain!

Let me give you an idea of how bad it is, especially in the tech sector: Go to a computer science career fair at your local university, and take note of how many of those companies don't even operate in Canada.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
Who cares? There seems to be an endless supple of brainy Asian people who would love to come to Canada.

LOL
Thanks Agathon, I was just waiting for someone to try that one