The USA and Britian can be knick out of the UN.

[Serb]

Originally posted by TheStinger


No he's Russian so he likes the idea of authoritarian governments telling people what they can and can't think or do

A little surprise for you, he is not Russian.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

Serbian. I'll grant you that it isn't much of a difference though.

There is. Their words are backed by nuclear weapons

Re: realpolitik - I suppose our American and English posters really recon that what their governments are doing for the past 200 years is not realpolitik. Why don't you save us from North Korea, too? Oh yeah, they have some nukes...

Re: will of the people. You mean the people of Kurdistan?

[Fidel]

Originally posted by TheStinger


No he's Russian so he likes the idea of authoritarian governments telling people what they can and can't think or do

Aren't all British people gays who drink their tea at 5 and shout things like 'Blimey!'?

[Serb]

[Arrian]

LaRusso,

Rip on us for GulfWarII all you want, but don't claim that what China did to Tibet is fine.

Russia in Chechnya is more of a gray area, but the allegations of Russian army tactics in that conflict are worrisome.

Because one's own country may have bloody hands in the past or even the present does not mean one cannot criticize the mistakes of others, but when you defend obvious acts of aggression like the annexation of Tibet, you undermine your argument against the US. So why do it?

-Arrian

[Japher]

Where's CharlesBHofff, and why can't he write so good? hehe.

Maybe he is on to something... The Knicks SUK!

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Ozz


The Mid-east was set up by the Allies and Arabs after
WW1 (1920) by a international meeting in bagdad chaired by W. Churchill.

It is NOT just a British construct, It is an Arab, British,
Italian, French compromise on what to do with the
Ottoman empire.

Churchill grandson was on Crossfire the other night and he said his grandfather may a few mistake making up the middle east as we now know the middle east. But it is easy to Monday morning quarterback history.
BTW Mr. Churchill is behine us 100%.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by LaRusso


There is. Their words are backed by nuclear weapons

Re: realpolitik - I suppose our American and English posters really recon that what their governments are doing for the past 200 years is not realpolitik. Why don't you save us from North Korea, too? Oh yeah, they have some nukes...

Re: will of the people. You mean the people of Kurdistan?

Hey guy hang though, North Korea and Iran may just be down the road a bit. You know, one at a time. One should not have try to kill daddy because, payback are a !@#$%^ @#$%^&..

[Sava]

For the record:

Tibet should be free.
I support Russian action in Chechnya.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Joseph
grandfather may a few mistake making up the middle east as we now know the middle east.

If WSC had had his way entirely it would have been
setup like British India without the national divisions (and without the French and Italians), another and lesser jewel in the crown.

[CharlesBHoff]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs


Hmm...not sure exactly what was said there, but I'll try responding. Member nations (re: their governments, not their private citizens) send representatives to the GA. Those reps cast votes, based on what they are told to do by their respective governments, on who while be the next Secretary General, what resolutions to pass etc. Can a permanent member state, like the United States, be voted out of the Security Council? I don't believe so, not legally anyway. The GA is a different beast; all legitimate nations NEED to have representation there, even if they don't have voting rights, though I seriously doubt the US will lose those rights, even if put to a vote. Many nations stand to lose A LOT in terms of aid packages from the US if such a slight was made against this country. It'd almost be better for the US to leave the UN voluntarily.

We are permant member for now by the UN chater as founding member but once kick out we lose that status automatic and it down the road we are again member of the UN our being permant member of the UN security Council is up to the General Assembly to give or not to give to use. The UN worker that work for the UN donot have the right to vote that only nation have the right to vote.. When Mainland became than member of the UN they got the veto power as it make no sense for Taiwan to have the veto power..

[Dis]

to the thread title:

how is this a bad thing?

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by LaRusso


There is. Their words are backed by nuclear weapons

Re: realpolitik - I suppose our American and English posters really recon that what their governments are doing for the past 200 years is not realpolitik. Why don't you save us from North Korea, too? Oh yeah, they have some nukes...

Patience. Why do you think we've been giving them the run-around? One step at a time.

[The Mad Monk]

Diss: a lot of us are wondering the same thing.

[CharlesBHoff]

Originally posted by Edan


When was Israel kicked out of the UN? AFAIK, it's retained membership since it became a member of the UN.

I read it somewhere in a book along time ago and they also
said on than tv show that Israel was kicked out of the UN for awhile, that why Israel is very anti-UN as they think they right in verything they do..