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  • #61
    Oh. I am about to learn somehting new. Please tell me, what is a Repubicrat?
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    • #62
      The Repubicrats are America's big fat majority party, usually getting about 90-100 % of the vote.

      Do I really have to explain the origin of the term?

      And I'm again amused at how you read what I write.
      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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      • #63
        Originally posted by HershOstropoler
        The Repubicrats are America's big fat majority party, usually getting about 90-100 % of the vote.
        Wow. Who are they? Do they have offices in Area 51?
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        • #64
          Don't know. Why don't you google the word + "area 51" ? Seems "Republicrats" is more popular, try that one.
          “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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          • #65
            Hoo boooy.

            So, how bout you explain the term, rather than leave it at the nebulous 'all American elections are fixed'.

            OTOH, nevermind. I just figured it out.

            Yeah. I guess they have a very poor tradition of democracy down there. Must be worse than the one they imposed on you folks, right?

            Is that why you're bitter? I mean. It must have been nice with that empire of slavs and balts and what-not. I mean, before you had democracy imposed on you.
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            • #66
              Say something really mean, NYE. It'll make you feel better...
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              • #67
                Ok, NYE, from the start:

                Republicrats - Republicans and Democrats seen as one party due to the lack of distinction between the two. Similar concept: SPÖVP, blending the austrian conservatives (ÖVP) and social democrats (SPÖ) into one party.

                "Yeah. I guess they have a very poor tradition of democracy down there."

                Hey, they say they're a Republic. Didn't you read that?

                "I mean. It must have been nice with that empire of slavs and balts and what-not. I mean, before you had democracy imposed on you."

                Balts? I'm not swedish.

                Now, I guess I have to educate you on the role the slavic representatives played in the Austrian Reichstag from 1867-1918, especially the Polish vote from Galicia...
                “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                • #68
                  Full text of Blair's speech

                  Now why couldn't Bush have given an eloquent speech like that?
                  "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                    "Yeah. I guess they have a very poor tradition of democracy down there."

                    Hey, they say they're a Republic. Didn't you read that?
                    I think they consider themselves a democratic republic. I think it means they gather once every four years or so to elect representatives. Actually, I think it is more often, because they have some kind of screwy alternating system, but maybe that's just me.

                    In the mean time, those representatives govern. Representatives, not polls.

                    "I mean. It must have been nice with that empire of slavs and balts and what-not. I mean, before you had democracy imposed on you."

                    Balts? I'm not swedish.
                    I'm sweet. I gave you an out.

                    Now, I guess I have to educate you on the role the slavic representatives played in the Austrian Reichstag from 1867-1918, especially the Polish vote from Galicia...
                    Hmmm. Austrian Reichstag. Did the emporer ask its permission to go to war with Serbia in '14? Would it have mattered?
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                    • #70
                      Every two years at the federal level.

                      As for the Reichstag, I'm not sure about the technical details. The Reichstag could have stopped the war by denying its funding and sacking the government, but there was a broad majority in favour.
                      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Edan
                        Full text of Blair's speech

                        Now why couldn't Bush have given an eloquent speech like that?
                        I saw almost the whole thing yesterday, I must say, there a couple of good speeches...

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                        • #72
                          Bush can't give a speech like that because he's a godawful public speaker.

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                          • #73
                            I thought that both Robin Cook's resignation speech and Tony Blair's appeal to Parliament were masterful - they both came across as decent, honest people who passionately believed what they were doing is right.

                            I don't entirely agree with either one of them, but I have to admire their eloquence (or the eloquence of their speech-writers).
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                            • #74
                              I think when they speak in the commons, they can't rely as much on speach writers because they have to react to comments form other MP's
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                              • #75
                                The parliamentary system forces Brit politicians, PM's in particular, to be much better speakers than their US counterparts.

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