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    Local elections in Iran have delivered a major boost to Islamic conservatives in the country, initial results show.

    According to partial counts, conservative candidates are set to win 14 out of 15 council seats in the capital Tehran, Iran's state IRNA news agency quoted the city's governor as saying.

    This would be a blow to reformist President Mohammad Khatami, for whom the nationwide city and village council elections have been seen as a test of his six years in office.

    However the turnout in Tehran was low, only around 25 percent, indicating disillusionment with politics and the slow pace of change in the country.

    One electoral official quoted by IRNA said turnout in the city may have been as little as 15 percent.

    Around the country, people went to the polls on Friday to elect 905 city councils and 34,205 village councils.

    Public frustration

    Recent elections in Iran have been regarded as a test of strength between reformists and hardliners.

    But as public frustration over the pace of reform grows, this poll was seen as a kind of referendum on the popularity of the president and his programme of peaceful and legal reform.

    It is the second time elections of this type have taken place. They were introduced in 1999 as part of President Khatami's concept of a civil society at the grassroots level.

    After casting his vote in the capital, the president called on all Iranians to take part, saying they were the basis of democracy.

    Unlike presidential and parliamentary elections, candidates are not screened by the conservative dominated guardian council. Instead, they are approved by an election board at the interior ministry, now dominated by reformers.

    This year a wider pool of names were admitted in the ballot, including several liberal dissidents from the liberal opposition Iran Freedom Movement, which was banned by a court last July.

    Many of the estimated 41 million eligible voters are under the age of 30. They feel disillusioned at the rate of change and believe that by taking part means an acceptance of the system, something which many are now no longer prepared to do.

    Some conservative groups called on their followers to stay away hoping to show that Mr Khatami's policies have failed.

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    Could this be a harbinger of future conflict between Persia and the USA? Could these Islamic hardliners even play a role in trying to seize Shi'ite territories when the US invades Iraq? Keep in mind that Persia has already moved troops into certain areas of Iraq.
    I think this could only spell trouble, as the apparent defeat of democratic reformers can only help give Bush a reason to invade.
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    It's Iran. Iran, for pete's sake. Stop calling it Persia.
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    • #3
      Yep, thanks to the idiocy of the foreign policy of the Iroquois Confederacy, the Persian reformists have lost credibility with respect to the hardline Zoroastrians.
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      • #4
        Invade with what would be the operative question? Contrary to rumor, we don't have any of those stealth army divisions.

        Khomeini's fundies started operating in Iraq the moment Khomeini seized power, and that was one of the main reasons Saddam attacked Iran - Iraqi officials assassinated, sedition in the mosques, etc.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Boris Godunov
          It's Iran. Iran, for pete's sake. Stop calling it Persia.
          Never!!! I'll fight till from my bones my flesh be hack'd.

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          • #6
            There's no point in voting if the hardliners keep vetoing everything you try and impliment. Those upset with how things are going in Iran are just tired and frustrated and see no point in bothering to vote.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #7
              You know the rules of the Game. Persia can't get from Fundamentalism to Democracy without a revolution. And it won't be a breeze, since their Civ isn't religious. Khatami gotta push harder if he wants this delicious +1 commerce
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              • #8
                I had hoped the "Persian" youth would stay in their idealistic mode a little longer....if they just make the jump straight to Western style cyniscism and decadence with no intervening period of idealism they won't gain anything.
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                • #9
                  I don't think that it has been called Persia for over a century.
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                  • #10
                    DinoD- I think it was offically changed to Iran in 1937, but then in 1949 the government said either were acceptable. I don't think there has been any policy chance on this since then.
                    I think Persia is better for two reasons.
                    1. It is cooler
                    2. As a matter of pragmatism, Iran is too similar to Iraq.
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                    • #11
                      You know the rules of the Game. Persia can't get from Fundamentalism to Democracy without a revolution. And it won't be a breeze, since their Civ isn't religious. Khatami gotta push harder if he wants this delicious +1 commerce
                      And Khomeini increases personal luxuries to 60%, and the people incite, "we love the Ayatollah day."

                      NO revolution, and trade increases to Democratic levels.
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                      • #12
                        Chegitz has the correct analysis. Iranians did not suddenly change from Liberal Secularists to hardline fundamentalists overnight because they don't like Bush. The Khatami administration has been ineffective at getting reform passed, so it makes no sense for reformists to try work within the system. Hence they boycott the polls. Hopefully now they will try working outside the system to undermine it.
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                        • #13
                          And by the way, Iran refers to the geographic name of the area. Persia refers to the dominant ethnic group, the Persians, but there are ethnic minorities. Persia is a racist name to call the country.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spiffor
                            You know the rules of the Game. Persia can't get from Fundamentalism to Democracy without a revolution. And it won't be a breeze, since their Civ isn't religious. Khatami gotta push harder if he wants this delicious +1 commerce
                            I believe they are doing better with Fundamentalism right now; large numbers of Fanatics and other free troops are more important than normal research, if you possibly have to kill an American invasion in the near future.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
                              Persia is a racist name to call the country.
                              It was posts like these that gave Political Correctness a bad name.
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