Even the realpolitik types have had enough

[Imran Siddiqui]

Come on, Frogger! Every saw the Cold War and the 'Balance of Terror'. Nukes give you power. They are a status symbol and untouchable status. It has been known for years that if you get nukes, you have power.... especially when you don't give a damn about sanctions.

[Urban Ranger]

I heard on the news that yet another US diplomat has resigned to protest the war. However, I still can't find any details on the Web, yet.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Come on, Frogger! Every saw the Cold War and the 'Balance of Terror'. Nukes give you power. They are a status symbol and untouchable status. It has been known for years that if you get nukes, you have power.... especially when you don't give a damn about sanctions.

I'm glad somebody bumped this.

What's up with Iran again?

[Urban Ranger]

Something about Iran enriching uranium.

[KrazyHorse]

Yeah. I wonder why they're steaming full-tilt towards it?

It's not like seeing NK and Iraq has taught Iran anything...

[Drake Tungsten]

Yeah. I wonder why they're steaming full-tilt towards it?

It's not like seeing NK and Iraq has taught Iran anything...

Iran has been working towards nukes for years. How do you think they got on the "Axis of Evil"?

Interesting spin though...

[KrazyHorse]

Drake, look at the progress they made in the ten years prior to 2001. Now compare since then.

And the way they got on the "Axis of Evil" was to take a bunch of Americans hostages in 1980, and not have the decency to have a revolution in the meantime.

They started running scared, for good reason, in the exact direction you should have been worried about. But your President's myopia prevented him from thinking even two steps ahead.

[Drake Tungsten]

The "Axis of Evil" is centered on WMDs, particularly nukes. You don't really think that it is a coincidence that the three members of the "Axis" are also the three states actively developing nuclear weapons, do you?

[KrazyHorse]

Iraq is actively developing nuclear weapons?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
The "Axis of Evil" is centered on WMDs, particularly nukes. You don't really think that it is a coincidence that the three members of the "Axis" are also the three states actively developing nuclear weapons, do you?

Nope.

[KrazyHorse]

Do you mind telling me where you got this brilliant piece of intelligence?

[Urban Ranger]

They are scared.

Compare DPRK and Iraq. US won't want to attack DPRK because they are rumored to have nuclear weapons. Even this morning I head the Bush admin is insisting on peacful diplomatic methods of resolving the situation.

[KrazyHorse]

And if you think that Iran and NK are the only 2 states actively developing nukes then you're living in a dream world.

The fact is that getting in the sights of the US is exactly what is going to spur you into taking a nuke development program fully online instead of puttering away in the background.

There's no way you can stop NK now, and almost certainly none to stop Iran either.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
They are scared.

Compare DPRK and Iraq. US won't want to attack DPRK because they are rumored to have nuclear weapons. Even this morning I head the Bush admin is insisting on peacful diplomatic methods of resolving the situation.

Two reasons US won't attack DPRK:

1.) DPRK is effectively contained by highly effective military forces on all sides.

2.) They can be bought.

[KrazyHorse]

Let's name 3 people we don't like. 2 have pretty good weapons and are regional powers. We can't fight them. One we can fight and is no danger wrt nukes.

brilliant strategy.

Tell someone you reserve the right to come for him. He might have been thinking about buying a gun before, but now he's going to get one for sure.