Chicago - another bad film

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Maybe you have a bad sense of humor then?

Maybe he just has the sense to dislike musicals, whether they're tongue-in-cheek or not?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Frogger
Maybe he just has the sense to dislike musicals, whether they're tongue-in-cheek or not?

While Chicago isn't a particularly great musical, it's silly to dislike it because one didn't find the characters sympathetic. It's like hating a gripping horror movie because there wasn't enough comedy in it.

[KrazyHorse]

I didn't read his review; I just wanted to take the opportunity to register my hatred of musicals.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Frogger
I didn't read his review; I just wanted to take the opportunity to register my hatred of musicals.

Musicals come in a wide variety. Fiddler on the Roof is one of the best movies ever made, musical or not. And there are the quasi-operatic ones like Sweeney Todd that I have both popular and artistic appeal.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Frogger
I didn't read his review; I just wanted to take the opportunity to register my hatred of musicals.

Any movie with singing and dancing is terrible before it begins, and can only redeem itself by not singing and dancing.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Musicals come in a wide variety. Fiddler on the Roof is one of the best movies ever made, musical or not. And there are the quasi-operatic ones like Sweeney Todd that I have both popular and artistic appeal.

What are you, some sort of homosexual musician?

[MRT144]

ned, maybe you should start watching disney movies where good does win, always

[Ned]

Originally posted by MRT144
ned, maybe you should start watching disney movies where good does win, always

The problem with movies like this is that there is noone in the film one can identify with, feel good about or feel bad about. There is no hero or anti-hero. The people are all loathesome.

I read a few reviews that did discuss the marked distinction between the play and the movie. The play appeared to be funny. The movie is not.

[MRT144]

most people are loathesome...

[Asher]

And most movies with ordinary people are loathesome, what's your point?

[Ned]

Alright, maybe you guys are right.

I really liked the two Mel Gibson movies this year: One was We Were Soldiers. The other - I forget the name - was about an alien invasion. Mel played a "former" priest.

In both movies, Gibson was a hero. Hardly loathesome at all.

BTW, both Gibson movies are far better than any nominated for the Golden Globes, IMHO.

[monolith94]

the other movie was "Signs"

[Asher]

We Were Soldiers was great, Signs was...ugh.

[SnowFire]

Can't comment on the book, but I always took those comments aimed at Exley with a grain of salt. Promotions aside, he still completely exiled himself from help within the department by turning rat- I always saw him as doing it because it was the right thing, darn it, and he was just clever enough to be sure he got some advantage out of it. This is something that I can very much relate to- pretending to do something for an "advantage" that really isn't much of one when really doing it because I think it's right. Heck, in a silly videogame (Metal Gear Solid 2), I always kill as few terrorists as possible, and justify it to myself with the advantages it gives (like the fact that the tranq gun is silenced, and the guards freak out less if they don't find dead bodies but merely sleeping ones), but it's really because I don't want to kill them.

[MRT144]

we should send snowfire to iraq. we need more humanitarian saddam busting machines!