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  • #76
    Originally posted by Havak
    Havak slips casually by and mentions Jonno got yellow carded yesterday and that it was a truly ludicrous refereeing decision (yet again).

    Fortunately the automatic one game ban will only affect the Glaws semi-final - not like it's an important game or anything.

    Even the Sky team thought it was very harsh.
    Havak slips casually by on the weekend to launch a pre-emptive defence.

    Edit. A-ha! On further checking, it turns out that Havak failed to mention that the automatic ban kicks in because this was J****'s third yellow card in twelve months. Say no more.
    Last edited by finbar; February 9, 2003, 21:28.
    " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
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    • #77
      Originally posted by finbar
      Agggghhhhhh! Thanks for that. The original site you gave me - the one I lost along with my bookmarks - was a good one. I wonder which one it was?
      I don't remember but it will be difficult to find a more accurate one than the "League Nationale de Rugby" site as this organism is managing the professional competitions in France. The site of the FFR (Fédération Française de Rugby) is even less accurate.
      "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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      • #78
        Originally posted by finbar
        Edit. A-ha! On further checking, it turns out that Havak failed to mention that the automatic ban kicks in because this was J****'s third yellow card in twelve months. Say no more.
        12 months??!!
        Yellow cards last for 12 months? Not having seen a whole lot of English domestic rugby perhaps I shouldn't judge - maybe they're very hard to come by and only given out for extreme offenses - but 3 in 12 months leading to an auto-ban sounds pretty harsh ...
        Not to mention that 12 months at this stage implies that the first was given out last season ...

        [Edit: Apparently this last was for a professional foul. A somewhat different matter - ignoring, for the time being, any question regarding the call of course ]
        Last edited by ravagon; February 10, 2003, 00:42.

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        • #79
          I just played in the annual Jesterfest tournament here. Today was the high school day of the tournament. My team did decent with a 2-2 record, although we should have defeated the first team we played, we were short some players and had a lot of new players trying to learn the ropes. I ran the gamet of positions today playing outside center, wing, prop, and eightman

          It was a fun day, even though I was thoroughly beat up by the end. I'm looking forward to the regular season and am hoping to go back to my beloved position on the flank.

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          • #80
            Any idea about what the field in Twickers will look like next week?
            It should be firm and pristine. There’s been little rain and a cold snap. The surface should be in good nick.

            A-ha! On further checking, it turns out that Havak failed to mention that the automatic ban kicks in because this was J****'s third yellow card in twelve months. Say no more.
            Lets say plenty more.

            Card one – Saracens. Robbie Russell climbs on Jonno’s back, he throws one punch to clear the little git and only the retaliator gets carded. Borderline.

            Card two – Harlequins two weeks ago. Killing the ball near our try line. Ludicrous, there’s no way the ref was placed to say it was J.

            Saturday. Jonno takes the man as the man takes the ball. It was good intuitive play from a line out and borderline for even a penalty. The moronic ref cards the player without consulting his touch officials (but then he didn’t do that all game for yet another SH coached team visiting us).

            The papers yesterday were analysing how J now gets reffed differently to other players. Even the Bristol coach disagreed with the card.

            And now one of the worlds best players misses a huge club game because of a hasty official. I’m still not happy.

            He makes the France game though!

            By the way – Gibson. Not impressed. Looks like he is ‘pension earning’ to be honest, not enough commitment by far. Kafer made him look second best (had one of his better games actually).

            More positively it was a decent performance from us. Signs even that forwards and backs has the same game plan. I hope we have turned the corner.

            The match report is here


            Tiger v Bristol
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Bearcat
              I just played in the annual Jesterfest tournament here. Today was the high school day of the tournament. My team did decent with a 2-2 record, although we should have defeated the first team we played, we were short some players and had a lot of new players trying to learn the ropes. I ran the gamet of positions today playing outside center, wing, prop, and eightman
              You sound like a one-man team!
              " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Havak
                The papers yesterday were analysing how J now gets reffed differently to other players.
                That happens to some players. Usually for a reason.

                By the way – Gibson. Not impressed. Looks like he is ‘pension earning’ to be honest, not enough commitment by far. Kafer made him look second best (had one of his better games actually).
                Which Gibson is this?

                The match report is here
                I've already read it.
                " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                • #83
                  Daryl Gibson I believe.

                  yes some players get reffed strictly. Normally it is because of trial by media unfortunately - rather than justified as you imply. Martin falls into this category sadly.

                  Fortunately he will lead England out Saturday. France would have been delighted if he wasn't no doubt.
                  It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                  • #84
                    Béziers 15 - 18 Stade Toulousain

                    The Stade Toulousain has won the game with a small margin though it could have lead the game easily without too many handling errors which have helped its opponent to remain in the match until the end. Is this the "Leicester" syndrome?

                    Countdown until the end of England's invincibility record at Twickenham: 6 days...
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by finbar


                      There's no coverage of any of these trial matches. I wouldn't read anything at all into any of these results (as such) because key players are either not playing or coming off the bench. Gregan and Giffen were missing from the Brumbies team and Larkham came off the bench at halftime. They're bona fide trial matches - experimenting, trying out rookies, preparing for the real thing.

                      Last night, Queensland beat the Crusaders 19-17 in Brisbane.
                      Yes, I suppose their predictive power is rather limited. It's still fun to speculate though.
                      It's also still stinking hot all around the country and the S12 comp kicks off within 2 weeks. Ice packs will be the order of the day.
                      Send us some heat and we'll send you some ice.
                      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
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                      • #86
                        It was a fun day, even though I was thoroughly beat up by the end.
                        I understand that. It took me the full week-end to recover from my friday evening match. As for 4 positions in the day, that's quite good. I once managed almost the same in a match (13,15,8,2). The problem is adapting to the situation.
                        And don't fool yourself, most teams are always short on experienced players, have new players who don't play at the same level at the others, and must make do with the players they have on a given day, particularly at amateur level. For instance, I played hooker last day (though I still try to pretend I am a scrum half), was pinioned captain for lack of someone else to fit the role, and had several props in the game, who normally play flanker, lock, center and (flanker or center) respectively.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by LDiCesare
                          I played hooker last day (though I still try to pretend I am a scrum half)
                          Meaning you still haven't passed the ball to the President?
                          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Havak
                            Normally it is because of trial by media unfortunately - rather than justified as you imply.
                            Only implied? Mmmmmm. I must be slipping.

                            Fortunately he will lead England out Saturday. France would have been delighted if he wasn't no doubt.
                            Speaking of which, what's the latest on our Party Hound friend Mr DeVilliers?
                            " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                            "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by finbar
                              Speaking of which, what's the latest on our Party Hound friend Mr DeVilliers?
                              Technically, it seems he should not be sanctionned because the control was not directly related to a current competition.

                              The Stade Français has not allowed him to play last saturday and he is not selected for England-France.



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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by finbar
                                You sound like a one-man team!
                                Mind you they were all different games

                                *pictures himself running around the field from position to position*

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