Minority vs minority?

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Macho cultures tend to be extremely anti-homosexual. It challenges traditional male role and authority.

Right, I have usually noticed African-Americans tend to have a more macho attitude then most, though there are certainly some African Americans who aren't like that.

"Oh, and I'm bisexual and listen to loads of Dancehall music about killing homosexuals. Does this make me a bad person?"

If you like music that advocates killing homosexuals then you have questionable tastes in music.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Right, I have usually noticed African-Americans tend to have a more macho attitude then most, though there are certainly some African Americans who aren't like that.

This is a result of the demasculinization of Black men by whites during Slavery, Jim Crow, and economic prejudice. Aside from litterally being castrated by white mobs, some Black men feel castrated by not being able to effectively take care of their family (real or potential), and thus must act more manly to counter this. On top of this is the fact that Black women tend to get more and better jobs than Black men, which further demasculinizes them in their own minds. (See children, how sexism f*cks you up even if you're a man!)

Black homosexuals threaten this sense of Black manhood. I haven't seen any single cultural group in the US as uniformly anti-gay as Blacks, although the US South comes close. Black gays have a very hard time because not only do they have to deal with heterosexism from other Blacks, they have to deal with racism from other gays. Now here's the weird thing, most Black gays continue to live in the Black community rather than go live in the various "gay ghettos."

And with all such statements like this, particulars vary and this is only a broad generalization.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Asher

I agree, but if I recall correctly you said you wouldn't want to date a bisexual person a long time ago...

Yeah, until I realized that I was in error.

You and a couple of other guys pointed out a legitimate difference between a white person choosing not to date blacks and a gay guy choosing not to date bisexuals.

I can't remember what the exact reasoning was, but after you pointed out how the white person would not be prejudiced towards blacks, but a gay person would still be prejudiced towards bisexuals, I changed my mind.

What I just typed -- did that make any sense?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MrFun
What I just typed -- did that make any sense?

Yes, and congratulations on overcoming one of your prejudices.

[MrFun]

Chegitz -- surprised I'm getting a thumb's up from someone who is mistakenly accusing me of "scoring political points" from a human tragedy.

[Sarxis]

Since we're on this subject, I recently heard from someone that there's a growing trend in America of african-american homosexuality and a bloom of AIDS transmission between them.

Of course this is all word of mouth, and I have no links or concrete evidence about this; which is why I am commenting on it here at OT.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MrFun
Chegitz -- surprised I'm getting a thumb's up from someone who is mistakenly accusing me of "scoring political points" from a human tragedy.

Just because you're an ass elsewhere doesn't mean you shouldn't be congratulated for human growth.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Just because you're an ass elsewhere doesn't mean you shouldn't be congratulated for human growth.

Now Chegitz -- usually when people insult other people, that person doing the insulting is reflecting how he really feels about himself.

[Ben Kenobi]

Jews can be atheists. muslims cannot, by definition.

-Azazel

Che, what Azazel meant was thata Jewish identity can be cultural or religious, where having a family member who is a Jew can make you a Jew as would converting to Judiasm.

Muslims are different, in that one cannot be a Muslim just because one's parents were Muslims as well.

Could you clarify what you mean by a secular Muslim? Perhaps an example of one?

[Shi Huangdi]

"This is a result of the demasculinization of Black men by whites during Slavery, Jim Crow, and economic prejudice. Aside from litterally being castrated by white mobs, some Black men feel castrated by not being able to effectively take care of their family (real or potential), and thus must act more manly to counter this. On top of this is the fact that Black women tend to get more and better jobs than Black men, which further demasculinizes them in their own minds. "

Maybe, but be careful when you try to provide reasons for their actions. Hatred towards homosexuals is not acceptable and people are responsible for their own actions, irregardless of historical explanations.