Old Europe left out in the cold?

[Bereta_Eder]

not like you sucked 3.000 victims in the world towers no

[Ned]

Originally posted by paiktis22
The new gov will by a US pupet regime.
So all the good oil deals will go to US companies.

Its called sucking a country dry and it wont be the first time.

Puppet or friend?

I am sure, though, that the new Iraqi government will know who its friends are and better, who are not.

But, isn't this a good argument to join the coalition? We had 77 countries in the last one.

BTW, how have the oil and other contracts gone in Kuwait. Does anyone have any hard data?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

You can do better than that.

[Bereta_Eder]

Ned, puppet regime.

Ogie, how about this: but your bloodlust was satiated after dropping bombs, that are designed to clear entire forests, on people in Afganistan?

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Ned
paiktis, saying that 80% of the EU are against the war is like saying that 80% of the EU is in favor of keeping Saddam Hussein in power.

Why do 80% of the EU favor keeping Saddam Hussein in power?

Ned, Saddam is of course a bloody dictator, and I wish nothing more than the Iraqi people could overthrow him and establish a more human, may be even democratic government. However, having a dictator does not justify an invasion. If it did, the United States would have to invade many of the other countries in ME, half of South America and 3/4 of Africa too. In fact, the US is even actively supporting many of these Micro-Hitlers, just like they formerly supported Saddam.

On the question of WoMD, well, put facts on the table. Saying "we are convinced, that Saddam has WoMD" proves nothing. I'm sorry to say this, but hardly anyone in Europe considers GWB to be a reliable source of information. Statements without prove are hearsay, not more. Either put the smoking gun on the table, or tell Blix, where he can find it. Bush keeps to brag with his outstanding intelligence data. Why doesn't he use it to convince the world with facts? I dare to say, that he would get much, much more support, in France, Germany, and elsewhere, than with lying, wardrumming and threatening. At least I would say, ok, there's the prove, now go and remove that bastard.

Instead of this, he makes with his "axis of evil", "who's not with us is against us" and similar bull more and more enemies everywhere in the world. The worlds opinion has never been as anti American, as it is now. In the case of France and Germany Bush and Rumsfeld clearly show their outstanding diplomatic skills. If I want to achieve something, it's of course the best choice to piss off my opponent. That letter of the 8 had also not the effect it should. It was made up like a commercial ad, who likes them? Blairs position was known before. Italy, oh well... Bush and Berlusconi are an awesome couple. Let's better be silent about Italy. For Spain I feel a bit sorry, I had a better opinion about Aznar. The other countries are, sorry, insignificant. Danmark helps you how, with 40-60 "hunters" (according to Winston)? What do they hunt? I'm sure they'll be the make or break in this war.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Keep trying.

[Bereta_Eder]

What for?
Fait accompli

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Naah, I'm just hoping one of these posts you'll actually show some intelligence. Call me an optimist.

[Bereta_Eder]

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Congratulations.

The most intelligent thing you've said to date. See I knew you had it in you.

[Bereta_Eder]

i see you belong to the enlightened species of men who consider intelligent whatever agrees with their opinions.
A common disease

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Now an expert on sucking and disease. Kudos to you.

[Bereta_Eder]

I say them as I see them on you

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

LOL

I'm rubber and your glue.... Blah blah

[Bereta_Eder]

LOL indeed