Old Europe left out in the cold?

[Bereta_Eder]

it wasnt popular anywhere since they acted like common cheatinglittle children.
but that letter doesntmean anything

the greek presidency will call a emergency EU meeting on iraq and let them repeat it there, officially if they want.

the letter is a joke

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Spiffor
What does FOPG stand for ?

Former Ottoman Province of Greece.

[Bereta_Eder]

You obviously agree with the reaction LOTM

[Spiffor]

(It just made me thought that FYROM is really a lame name )

[Bereta_Eder]

plus Aznar and Balir are hypocrites of the highest magnitude


a day before they amde the letter (or should it be called toilet paper?) they had talks for hours with simitis and didnt warn him of anything

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by paiktis22
You obviously agree with the reaction LOTM

FOPG is a sovereign country, and FOPGians have the right to react how they please. ;

The signers acted out of the interests and beliefs of their own sovereign countries.

Will it matter - dont know for sure - its a subtle game of pressure going on right now, probably matters at least a little bit.

[DanS]

FOPG is just angry that their EU presidency is going down in flames.

[Bereta_Eder]

the signers did not follow normal procedures and stabbed a knife in the back of the EU, seriously undermining the quest for a common foreign policy line.

thats what bisbehaving children do, not countries which have committed themselves to an institution.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Spiffor

(It just made me thought that FYROM is really a lame name )

Well of course thats not what the FYROMians call themselves. But the FOPGians insist.

Lord of the Mark
Former British Colonial Territories of British North America (excluding Upper and Lower Canada) FBCTNAXULC

[Bereta_Eder]

Thats about Iraq and the 500.000 people you will kill for oil, not how FYROM is recognized in the UN.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
the signers did not follow normal procedures and stabbed a knife in the back of the EU, seriously undermining the quest for a common foreign policy line.

FOPG should look at German and France if she wishes to blame people for undermining the quest for a common European foreign policy. Those two appear not to have consulted with the rest of the EU when making thier decisions on this issue and now we see the predictable response to that.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by paiktis22
the signers did not follow normal procedures and stabbed a knife in the back of the EU, seriously undermining the quest for a common foreign policy line.

thats what bisbehaving children do, not countries which have committed themselves to an institution.

EU procedures forbid memeber states from writing letter together without consulting in advance, but allow memebers to coordinate positions at UNSC meetings without consulting in advance, like France and Germany did. I think the signers were pissed with the folks who are undermining the quest for a common EU foreign policy.

[Bereta_Eder]

au contraire France and Germany and ALL the others had already agreed on the principles.

the gang of 8 made a maverick move which is like a firework.

[Bereta_Eder]

and was outside the institutions unlike to what others did.

thats why it has the worth of a toilet paper

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Thats about Iraq and the 500.000 people you will kill for oil, not how FYROM is recognized in the UN.

what about iraq and the 500000 iraqi we will kill for oi, paiktis waht post are you referrring to??
I explained FYROM situation in response to another post that mentioned the lameness of the name FYROm, and was not about the million iraqis saddam has killed, or about the Kurds who are worried the US will NOT invade, or about how we dont need Iraqi oil. Neither was it about FOPGian roles in supporting massacres in the balkans, nor in equating local acts of revenge by Kosovars with a planned genocide by the serbs. It was not about any of those things, paiktis, so why are you bringing them up???