were only weird because our ****ry is run by a bunch of religious zealouts and is a psuedo secular state!
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That one got a real LOL GP.
You're slipping back. Is this the way you guys cat fight on navy ships?Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
That one got a real LOL GP.
You're slipping back. Is this the way you guys cat fight on navy ships?
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Yeah, I'm getting bored with it too.
Its a shame you don't understand how my friend Ming and I interact on a slow day like this.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Yeah, I'm getting bored with it too.
Its a shame you don't understand how my friend Ming and I interact on a slow day like this.
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well mock outrage does get tiresome for me too you know...Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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I'm tired of the lot of you.Entertain me.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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I can't perform on demand you know - I'm not a seal.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Performance anxiety? Must be tough.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Uh oh - troll mod number 2 is online.
Button up guys.
Did I mention lots of domestic cats got killed in the Canberra fires? It was really sad and sh*t like that?Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
That is truly baffling.
Could you explain how the UK has a system of government that OBL has as his ultimate goal?
Or more simply explain how the UK government is less secular (in practice) than the US?
The prince still cannot marry his true love.
Where is the fault in this tragedy? It is that the Monachy is the head of Church of England.
But more than this, this tragic love story drives home to all Catholics that they truly are second class citizens in the UK.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en
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Originally posted by Spiffor
I must admit the christianty of the US isn't much of a difference with most of the West.
While christianty has a huge role in American politics and American identity (President's pledge on the Bible, pupils' pledge, all the debate on creationism and abortion which are clearly fueled by religiousnonsensedebates), it is not really different than some European countries : Germany's right wing party is clearly religious, religion has a very significant impact on Portugal's politics, and most of the European Parlament's representatives are more or less against abortion.
However Ned, I can tell you that it isn't enough to write in legal texts that religion and state are separated, for it to be real. In France, the separation occured in 1905, and was an extremely tense struggle between the Republic and the Church : many goods belonging to the Church have been taken, schools were agressively worldly, and remain so somehow (often, muslim students with scarf of the head are expelled), and every thing which wasn't complete by the time is a very sensible topic every time a politician dares to touch the old status quo (every time the funding of private / religious schools change in comparison of public schools, you have millions of demonstrators, whatever the chosen side)
This painful experience mostly separated French politics from Religion. But it was much more than some text nobody bothers to read.
(in Germany, I was really surprised to see ads for churches, political speeches featuring the word "god" etc.)
I believe, for example, that many European countries actually support regligious schools with tax dollars. Not so?http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en
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Worse. Most European countries fund religion directly from tax dollars. Such a thing would, of course, make any right thinking American cringe.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Ned (and to some extent Dan): You really live in a fantasy world.
Now, if you can understand the two concepts of religious neutrality (a la Germany and Austria, for example) and strict separation of church and state (a la US and France), we can debate this. Requires a bit of knowledge about comparative constitutional law. Then maybe even Ned would understand why Osama would not like either concept.
"Most European countries fund religion directly from tax dollars."
Explain. But please not the german "Kirchensteuer".“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)
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