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  • #76
    A religion that is not being treated neutrally.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #77
      Why is it a religion ? And if it is one, how is it treated not neutrally ?
      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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      • #78
        But more than this, this tragic love story drives home to all Catholics that they truly are second class citizens in the UK.
        Must be why Blair is married to one.

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        • #79
          It is a religion because it is recognized as such.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #80
            Recognized as such by whom ? And if it is one, how is it treated not neutrally ?
            “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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            • #81
              Us. We've got a lot more experience than Austria (and you) wrt experimental religion.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #82
                Wasn't there a big US tax law stink about scientology being a religion ? That they bribed their way to religion status means nothing.

                Anyway, let's say it's a religion. Put up or shut up.
                “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                • #83
                  As I understand it, a portion of the taxes in Germany is set aside for your religion. Scientologists, since the German gov't incorrectly doesn't recognize it as a religion, cannot elect to have those funds go toward scientology.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #84
                    "a portion of the taxes in Germany is set aside for your religion"

                    That is incorrect.

                    Recognized religious communities can use the state's tax bureaucracy to collect the so called "Kirchensteuer", actually their membership dues, as a surcharge to income tax (details are very complex, but essentially), for which a portion of the church revenue is refunded to the state for its costs.

                    If you don't belong to a recognized community, you don't have to pay. I don't know which "portion of your taxes" would be set aside.

                    It's a uniquely german system, I prefer not having it here, but your claim is a total misconstruction.
                    “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                    • #85
                      OK, but the scientologists would not be able to avail themselves of this state service?
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #86
                        No, just like the rabbit breeding Club of Wanne-Eickel, and they would not have to pay for it either.
                        “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Sandman


                          Must be why Blair is married to one.
                          And why the leaders of the two main opposition parties are Catholic.
                          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                          • #88
                            Re: Re: Re: What crap are you talking?

                            Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin


                            The Ireland situation would not be resolved if the monarchy was removed and the UK government was segregated from religion.

                            The issue of Diana and the Prince of Wales has crap all to do with religion.
                            1) If the Monarchy remained but had nothing to do with religion, a large reason for the animosity between the Irish and English would be removed.

                            2) Is it not true that Charles was forbidden to marry a Catholic?

                            As to Blair being married to a Catholic -- this is good. But, when was the last a Catholic was PM or Lord Chancellor?
                            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                            • #89
                              Hershell. You're confusing me. If there is no benefit to being a religion, why would everybody be making a big fuss about it.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin


                                And why the leaders of the two main opposition parties are Catholic.
                                I asked my question concerning Catholic PM's before I saw this.

                                What parties are headed by Catholics?
                                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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