Minoritarian politics gone too far?

[Al B. Sure!]

Statistics indicate that the vast majority of Americans are against abortion on demand (even 66% of registered democrats are against abortion on demand), against homosexual marriages, and lesserly against affirmitive action.

America is obviously not a democracy and gov't policies should not be completely based on the beliefs of the 51% (though one could argue that a significant majority approaching 70% should decide gov't policies as so rarely is such a consensus achieved), but minority rights can only be so rigid and so strong or else you are creating a society where the electorate has no voice over gov't and some elite decides what is good for the people... so is issues like abortion on demand which is clearly condemned by the majority of americans simply minority rights or minoritarian politics that could explain the low voter turn-out among disillusioned americans?


thanks

[Nubclear]

Re: Minoritarian politics gone too far?

Originally posted by Albert Speer
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Your welcome. Bye!

[Berzerker]

If that large of a majority likes a policy, let them amend the Constitution. Until then, the Congress has no power to get involved in marriage, abortion, or "affirmative action".

[Jon Miller]

so the state has no right to protect peoples' lives?

Jon Miller

[Seeker]

A fetus is not a human person with rights, so states have no obligation to protect something that doesn't exist. It's not a person even if the majority of American's believe otherwise.

Is it the legal systems problem if many American's have an incoherent idea of what constitutes a person?

Shouldn't they do the right thing, the moral thing, not just cave in to a lot of Bible-wavers who want to put women back in their place, or teary-eyed boobs who think that any blob of goo with a drop of human DNA is fully fledged person?

Heck, a majority of Americans probably believe the government 'knows something' about UFOs.

[MRT144]

jesus would have been aborted...

[Az]

too bad he wasn't

[aaglo]

Speer.

If you're not happy with the current situation, start a revolution.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Was the question attached to one of those Geography quiz things that are given to random US knuckledraggers in order to cause general hilarity across the rest of the world?

[red_jon]

We live in Liberal Democratic societies, which means we do not have tyranny of the majority.

Most people in America in the 30s were for scapegoating and executing black people. Is that right?

People do not have the right to tell other people what they can and cannot do (I'm mainly reffering to gay marraiges here).

[Ben Kenobi]

(I'm mainly reffering to gay marraiges here)

red_jon:

Does not the state have some interest in marriage registration? Why have rules against incest, no marriages between couples of second cousins?

The state has no right to regulate relationships, but the state does have a right to regulate marriage.

Else why bother to get a marriage certificate?

[red_jon]

Originally posted by obiwan18


(I'm mainly reffering to gay marraiges here)

red_jon:

Does not the state have some interest in marriage registration? Why have rules against incest, no marriages between couples of second cousins?

The state has no right to regulate relationships, but the state does have a right to regulate marriage.

Else why bother to get a marriage certificate?

So you're comparing homosexuality to incest?

People who are dating a relative can date other people - they are not exclusively attracted to family member, meaning they have an alternative. Gay people (such as myself) are not attracted to the opposite sex, so have no alternative.

Children born out of incest can also have mutations.

The state does not have the right to deny same-sex couples the same opportunities as opposite sex couples.

[Solly]

Are you a Christian Red Jon?

If so, why are you a homo?

If not, why do you want to get married?

[chequita guevara]

Being opposed to abortion on demand isn't the same thing as opposing abortion. An overwhelming majority of Americans support the right to abortion to varying degrees.

[Solly]

There is no right to abortion.