I just can't control my depression.

[Saint Marcus]

you're not helping AH.

[Alexander's Horse]

Yes I am - he should finish what he starts and stop feeling sorry for himself.

Snap out of it son!

*slaps Provost across the face repeatedly*

[Saint Marcus]

doesn't work AH. people like you only makes things worse.

[Pedrunn]

Life sometimes sucks big time. And the desire to kill yourself just can come from nowhere in any person even ones without depression background. My sugestion is to do the things you like and live for it. Like family, friends, hobby, sports, computer games and even apolyton. Or would you like to be forbidden to come here have inteligent chat, or play games, or would you like to never see your mother and friends again, or would you like to never take a coffee (or beer, whatever) and chat with a friend again? That is my concept of death!!!

Anyway life can be a mess but i do believe being dead ans therefore excluded of everything you like is much worse.

Just do the stuff you like no matter what others say! This is my concept of living.

And if you still feel bad always remember an attempt to make life better has a chance of making things better. Doing nothing or giving up of life wont give you a better future ever!

[Alexander's Horse]

Okay - he should get professional help, do some exercise, eat a healthy diet and yada yada.

Feel better now?

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus

Doesn't work that way. Trust me. Sex helps, yeah. But in a condition like Provost is in, he won't get there. I never managed to until I got (partly) out of my depression. The only solution is to hire a pro. It depends on your morals if you want to do that or not.

Maybe - I don't know PH personally, so what can I say to that?

But it would help, long term. Definitely the therapeutic effect is real.

[Pedrunn]

... (following my line of thought)

The therapeut can always will give advice about how increase your chances of improving you life. Make the shot for a better life more accurate

[Provost Harrison]

I've learnt not to take AH seriously. I will consult a doctor for serious advice...

You see AH, I have tried to 'snap out of it' and I wish I could, but this one just isn't going away. I know what goes on, I did biochemistry so I am not ignorant towards the issue of antidepressants either, and I know when I may need to try another tactic.

[Plan Austral]

A questions, What is the meaning of phd and Lapdance?

[loinburger]

PH: First thing is to get a major change of scenery, but don't just go out and spend money will-nilly (touring the world is certainly a change of scenery, but few can afford it) -- that's a fine short-term solution, but if you put yourself into debt then it's a terrible long-term solution (since the debt will simply rekindle your depression). You mentioned that you have a dead-end job -- one of the first changes of scenery I applied when I went through my most recent depression was to quit my temp job (data entry -- sedentary, mind-numbing, and didn't pay too well either) and become a manual laborer (landscaping -- exhilerating, freed up my mind to introspect or daydream or whatever, and actually paid better than the "skilled" temp job). You might want to seriously consider doing something similar -- it doesn't have to be manual labor, it just has to be something new -- it also doesn't have to be something enjoyable (since few, if any, things are enjoyable when you're in a depressed state), it just has to be something that you could conceivably find to be enjoyable (the enjoyment will come in time as you break free from your depression). Use your imagination, or employ somebody who knows you fairly well to brainstorm a new (temporary) career for you (the latter is probably the better solution, since you're probably not in much of a state to pick a new temporary career at the moment).

Exercise is also a great help, though non-competitive exercise may or may not work as well as competitive exercise depending on your particular mindset -- non-competitive exercise tends to bore me (which doesn't help my depression), while competitive exercise (racquetball, soccer, etc.) helps me take my mind off of things (since I'm consumed by a bloodlust when faced by any competition -- "Yarr, that racquetball's life is forfeit!" or "Trump that ace, beeyotch!"). Other people prefer non-competitive exercise, since competitive exercise causes them focus on their failures even more (when they eventually and inevitably lose a game). Do whichever is right for you, but do something -- the endorphins released during prolonged exercise can be nearly as helpful as prescribed meds. Just be aware that the withdrawal from said endorphins can be just as (if not more) severe, so don't stop exercising cold turkey when you're through your depression.

Speaking of which, don't be afraid of using prescribed anti-depressants on a short-term basis. I'd have never broken out of my original depression (which occurred about nine or ten years ago) had it not been for anti-depressants -- I was just so deep into a depressive state that I needed a chemical shock to my brain in order to break out of it. Be wary about using them on a long-term basis, but be aware that some people do have permanent neural deficiencies that require them to continue taking meds in order to avoid sinking back into a depression. If you're one of those unlucky few then it sucks to be you, but just remember that this wouldn't be a problem with your personality, it's solely a problem with your brain chemistry (over which you really don't have much control). If you're not one of those unlucky few, though, then don't take the meds on a long-term basis -- you'll grow unnecessarily dependant on them.

[Bereta_Eder]

ill try to explain in english
You really don't know?

PHD = Doctorate. The academic level beyond a Master's

1.University
2.Master's
3.PHD

A high academic degree. You can even become a professor at universities with that in some countries.


Lapdance is a bit different.....

A girl would dance on you who are sitting on your chair.

A girl in a strip joint most of the time.

[Provost Harrison]

Plan, a PhD is a higher research degree (doctor of philosophy), and a lapdance, well paying a lady to 'dance' on your knee

Originally posted by loinburger
PH: First thing is to get a major change of scenery, but don't just go out and spend money will-nilly (touring the world is certainly a change of scenery, but few can afford it) -- that's a fine short-term solution, but if you put yourself into debt then it's a terrible long-term solution (since the debt will simply rekindle your depression). You mentioned that you have a dead-end job -- one of the first changes of scenery I applied when I went through my most recent depression was to quit my temp job (data entry -- sedentary, mind-numbing, and didn't pay too well either) and become a manual laborer (landscaping -- exhilerating, freed up my mind to introspect or daydream or whatever, and actually paid better than the "skilled" temp job). You might want to seriously consider doing something similar -- it doesn't have to be manual labor, it just has to be something new -- it also doesn't have to be something enjoyable (since few, if any, things are enjoyable when you're in a depressed state), it just has to be something that you could conceivably find to be enjoyable (the enjoyment will come in time as you break free from your depression). Use your imagination, or employ somebody who knows you fairly well to brainstorm a new (temporary) career for you (the latter is probably the better solution, since you're probably not in much of a state to pick a new temporary career at the moment).

Well the effort is getting another job sorted out. Jobs haven't been exactly throwing themselves at me. But the change of scenery is good, it is why I am looking for a move, and if I get enough money saved up I would bugger off somewhere else for a while, although I wouldn't be able to afford too long...you are right, the long term debt would bugger me up.

Exercise is also a great help, though non-competitive exercise may or may not work as well as competitive exercise depending on your particular mindset -- non-competitive exercise tends to bore me (which doesn't help my depression), while competitive exercise (racquetball, soccer, etc.) helps me take my mind off of things (since I'm consumed by a bloodlust when faced by any competition -- "Yarr, that racquetball's life is forfeit!" or "Trump that ace, beeyotch!"). Other people prefer non-competitive exercise, since competitive exercise causes them focus on their failures even more (when they eventually and inevitably lose a game). Do whichever is right for you, but do something -- the endorphins released during prolonged exercise can be nearly as helpful as prescribed meds. Just be aware that the withdrawal from said endorphins can be just as (if not more) severe, so don't stop exercising cold turkey when you're through your depression.

Believe me, competitive sport brings out the worst in me, it makes me dwell on my failures in a big way and makes me extremely angry. I would just try swimming or walking, which are the two forms of exercise I have always engaged in anyway.

Speaking of which, don't be afraid of using prescribed anti-depressants on a short-term basis. I'd have never broken out of my original depression (which occurred about nine or ten years ago) had it not been for anti-depressants -- I was just so deep into a depressive state that I needed a chemical shock to my brain in order to break out of it. Be wary about using them on a long-term basis, but be aware that some people do have permanent neural deficiencies that require them to continue taking meds in order to avoid sinking back into a depression. If you're one of those unlucky few then it sucks to be you, but just remember that this wouldn't be a problem with your personality, it's solely a problem with your brain chemistry (over which you really don't have much control). If you're not one of those unlucky few, though, then don't take the meds on a long-term basis -- you'll grow unnecessarily dependant on them.

I agree, I need to break the cycle, and nothing before has succeeded. Without something to break this cycle, I will never get laid and I will never get a decent job. Without either of those, my depression will persist and life will seem permanently pointless. I need to try this, determination alone just isn't enough.

[Plan Austral]

Thanks, I knew phd was something academical, I had no idea about lapdance.

[Plan Austral]

In fact, I Imagined that a lapdance was some kind of therapeutical choreography, like aerobics , quite ridiculous indeed.

[Plan Austral]

I agree with Pedrunns advice.