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  • #31
    I loved the film. Own it on DVD, and may even watch it after I post this.

    I view the film as Kubrick's last gift to the world. I was a little shocked when I discovered Steven Spielberg was the one bringing it to the screen, and that Kubrick had insisted he be the one to make it. But Spielberg did a passable job.

    Like Ari Rahikkala, I am utterly amazed people thought the advanced Mecha were aliens. Not only do they explain what happened [were the people who thought they were aliens asleep at this point??] but there are many hints throughout the film. Take a close look at the robot corporations logo - it is the shape of the advanced mecha.

    The movie fails, though, in the sense that it fails to enlighten its audience on how to improve themselves.

    Man is just simply doomed to destroy itself? Well, F-off Spielberg; I think man does have a hope, and its not in its machines.
    It is left up to you to ponder such things. The film, like all Kubrick's work is meant to stimulate you into thinking for YOURSELF!

    Bkeela.
    Voluntary Human Extinction Movement http://www.vhemt.org/

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    • #32
      Like Ari Rahikkala, I am utterly amazed people thought the advanced Mecha were aliens. Not only do they explain what happened [were the people who thought they were aliens asleep at this point??]
      I can't remember anymore what they explained, care to tell?

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      • #33
        The reason I thought they were aliens was that immediately after having seen the movie, I was under the impression that the mechas had been killed just as surely as humanity had. I got the impression that David just lying there for ages meant that the world was slowly dying (I had no evidence, my mind just works in weird ways I guess) and getting colder and just plain DEAD… thus these looked like alien archaeologists…
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        • #34
          Originally posted by monolith94
          The reason I thought they were aliens was that immediately after having seen the movie, I was under the impression that the mechas had been killed just as surely as humanity had. I got the impression that David just lying there for ages meant that the world was slowly dying (I had no evidence, my mind just works in weird ways I guess) and getting colder and just plain DEAD… thus these looked like alien archaeologists…
          I also have a feeling there were more to point out that they were aliens than just their looks, but I can't remember anymore what... Do I have to watch it again??

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          • #35
            The advanced mecha express envy of the human spirit to David. They also viewed humanity as being central to the meaning of existence. I thought it more likely that the advanced mecha who had inherited the 'enduring memory' of humanity, had more reason for their archeological obsession than aliens. Would super advanced aliens go to so much trouble to investigate the history of humanity if there wasn't some personal puzzle at stake?
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            • #36
              Well it's not a poll, but the movie was brilliant .
              Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
              GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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              • #37
                Would super advanced aliens go to so much trouble to investigate the history of humanity if there wasn't some personal puzzle at stake?
                Why not? I know one species who does that... humans. If humans would go to another planet, and found just a single cell organism, would they try to unravel its secrects, eventhought humans are super advanced compared to the organism? Yes we would. It's called curiosity.

                I had totally forgotten about the human asskissing at the end, usually it's just celebration of american superiority, this time all of the human race, how nice.

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                • #38
                  Tinyp3nis, you have to see it in the context of the film. A film is not merely a random slice of life - it is a carefully crafted story, and everything within has bearing. The advanced mecha are obviously curious about their origins, as we are about our own.

                  Yes, we would probably investigate the ruins of an alien civilisation, but that is another film.
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                  • #39
                    I'm with Boris and Rufus. I think it is an absolutely fantastic film, right up until the last 20 minutes. If I imagine that the film actually ends with David in front of the Blue Fairy, slow pull-out/fade-out, roll credits--best scifi ever--EVER. Everything after that was completely unnecessary and obnoxious.
                    "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                    • #40
                      Who built the advanced mecha? They said David was proof of humans and that people built robots as I recall, but doesn't that mean people built mechas that eventually designed future advanced mechas? That would require mechas programmed for the task, yet the movie never makes any mention of mechas designed for such a task. These advanced mechas just pop up with no explanation for their origin...

                      Furthermore, the movie claims people caused global warming melting the ice caps, but we find David intact within a glacier or frozen ocean, lol. Manhattan was once covered by ice, but not because the ocean froze, but because a glacier moved down from the north. How would a glacier encapsulate David and the blue fairy without crushing them?

                      Did this movie come from a book? maybe it explains if David was put to sleep...

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                      • #41
                        That would require mechas programmed for the task, yet the movie never makes any mention of mechas designed for such a task.


                        You do realize that machines make cars these days? It isn't that much of a leap.

                        Furthermore, the movie claims people caused global warming melting the ice caps, but we find David intact within a glacier or frozen ocean, lol.


                        I assume there was an ice age.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #42
                          At first, I thought they were aliens too. At that point, I was a little impatient when the movie didn't end at David's first "death".

                          The fact that they were mecha makes it a completely different story. An "image and likeness" story right out of Western religious tradition.

                          Definitely a better movie the second time around than the first, if you can stand it.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Bkeela
                            Tinyp3nis, you have to see it in the context of the film. A film is not merely a random slice of life - it is a carefully crafted story, and everything within has bearing. The advanced mecha are obviously curious about their origins, as we are about our own.

                            Yes, we would probably investigate the ruins of an alien civilisation, but that is another film.
                            You didn't see my point. My point was to show you how meaningless the qouted part of your text was, since it doesn't take mecha to be curious about something, nobody can know how "super advanced aliens" would act on such matter.

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                            • #44
                              Golly, considering the preview trailers and ads all started with the statement "His love is real, but he is not" what did you guys expect? Of course it had a happy ending, if you consider the end of the world and the loss of the only person he ever loved to be a happy ending.

                              I still don't interpret the ending as David being euthanized. At the end the narrator says that he "went to the place from which all dreams come". That could as well have meant that his journey to "become human" was complete. OTOH it could mean that he was "put to sleep", but then if he literally went to dreamland, i.e., heaven, well......can robots send other robots to heaven? Robot heaven? Was he dreaming of electric sheep?
                              "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                              • #45
                                As long as endings don't suck they can be happy

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