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i just dont like mania among adults for childish things
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"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger -
And who are you to decide what is childish or not?
Who are you to decide that adults should not like child things?
Bah!“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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because i am the final arbiter of what is right and wrong...jesus, didnt you get the memo?
i just think adults should use their vastly superior intellect and higher standards to appreciate adult things. why drink grape juice when you can wine? why read a childs book when you could read one made for adults?
speaking of which im gonna join a baseball team for 10 year olds because no one should tell me i shouldnt like childish things"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburgerComment
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i just think adults should use their vastly superior intellect and higher standards to appreciate adult things. why drink grape juice when you can wine? why read a childs book when you could read one made for adults?
Because the child's book may be better than the adult book? It might have a better story, better characterization? Adults are using their superior intellect and higher standards and are picking the children's books for their superior writing.
Grape juice is sometimes better than wine. (Personally, a good grape juice is much better than wine
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“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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rowling uses cliches and similar plot devices through all the books...and harry is a little poofter brat"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburgerComment
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I liked LOTR. I tried to read one of the Potter books - I think it was the second - but lost interest. So I can't say whether I got hold of a bad one, but personally, if the others are like it, there's no comparison.
To me, LOTR has so many levels - the genealogies, the elvish poetry, the developed, varied cultures - that it's a much more impressive work, IMO. Consider the era when Tolkein wrote the books - diversity in culture was much less accepted, fantasy literature wasn't a genre at all. In that sense, LOTR was groundbreaking, IMO. Besides enjoying the story itself, I enjoyed the breadth of the story, and the attention to detail.
I read the Hobbit, and that is a book that was more intended for children, IIRC. It didn't appeal to me as much, because it seemed a very 'bare bones', simple story. I guess I like detail - to me, that's art."I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
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rowling uses cliches and similar plot devices through all the books...and harry is a little poofter brat
Just because you do not like Potter doesn't mean that all adults don't like it.
Just because you have no taste, doesn't mean we all have to suffer.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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and Tolkien doesn't?Originally posted by MRT144
rowling uses ... similar plot devices through all the books
Got a character in a tricky situation? Can't think how to get him out of it? Is it almost lunchtime and you've just GOT to finish this chapter before you eat?
*fanfare please*
Call the Eagles! They can arbitrarily rescue any character from any awkward situation you seem to have placed them in! WoooHooo!
You can't use them all the time, of course, that would be silly, just when you can't be bothered to think of anything else....
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"How many children's books have death and evil as the ending?"
For that, I reccomend any book by John Bellairs."mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
Drake Tungsten
"get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
Albert SpeerComment
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1. LOTR is boring. Sure, it invented fantasy, but there are a number of books that are much better; for instance, the Song of Ice and Fire series.
2. Harry Potter is like anything by Turtledove. It's amusing, but it isn't anything special; no deep meanings, no great literature. It's crap, but it's amusing crap (though, I've only read 30 or so pages from a single book). Really, they're ideal pre-teen books.
3. Zep is God. Any other opinion is blasphemy."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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2. Harry Potter is like anything by Turtledove. It's amusing, but it isn't anything special; no deep meanings, no great literature. It's crap, but it's amusing crap (though, I've only read 30 or so pages from a single book). Really, they're ideal pre-teen books.
My suggestion: Read more than 30 pages
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It may not have deep meanings (well maybe other than be tolerant) or great literature, but many, many books don't fit that. You are going to have a Hell of a lot of books labeled crap then. Every Steven King novel, every Tom Clancy book. They may not be great literature or have deeper meanings (and let's be serious, LOTR doesn't have a deeper meaning either), but that doesn't mean they are crap.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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By no deep meanings, I mean that it's rather superficial. Same old boring good vs. evil. Done a million times, particularly in the fantasy genre. Nothing that makes you say, "damn this is cool."
Alright, crap might not be a good description. Maybe trashy.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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@ the idea of comparing Turtledove and Rowling together…
Not making any value judgements here, just saying it's ridiculous to even say them in the same sentence!
"mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
Drake Tungsten
"get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
Albert SpeerComment
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That's the problem with you anarchists, you see the world in black and white.
Good or crap. No middle, and you wonder why people think you guys are nuts.
Nothing that makes you say, "damn this is cool."
:shrug: That's what I thought after reading the first book (frankly it is difficult to put a HP book down after you pick it up). You have the same fantasy crap, but a world filled with wizards in the background and even a boarding school for them. One word: COOL!
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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I'm totally serious. The only reason I read Turtledove is because the alternate historical genre in general is so bleak, and I love alternate history!@ the idea of comparing Turtledove and Rowling together…
Not making any value judgements here, just saying it's ridiculous to even say them in the same sentence!
It's not bad, it just isn't all that good. I mean, I'd read it if it fell into my lap and I'm not reading anything interesting at the moment, but I wouldn't go looking for it.That's the problem with you anarchists, you see the world in black and white.
Good or crap. No middle, and you wonder why people think you guys are nuts .
Errr.. right.:shrug: That's what I thought after reading the first book (frankly it is difficult to put a HP book down after you pick it up). You have the same fantasy crap, but a world filled with wizards in the background and even a boarding school for them. One word: COOL!
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
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