The shame nations of WWII.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


Actually the American Revolution was funded by Jews. Without them we would never have been able to fund Washington's army long enough to win French support.

Dr. Strangelove, I didn't know this. They really must have had it in for the Brits for the expulsion of the late 1200's. Was there any other motivation?

The Jews did something similar in 117 when the Romans conquered Mesopotamia. They financed a Jewish revolt in North Africa that caused the Romans to withdraw their legions from Mesopotamia in order to quell the revolt.

Also, when the Visigoths began to forceably convert the Jews of Spain, they called in their brothers, the Berber/Jews from Africa, who with Arab reinforcements, took Spain.

[David Floyd]

Dr Strangelove was incorrect, France supplied far more men to the Allies then it ever did to Germany, the Vichy forces never served Germany, in fact in North Africa they would be the backbone of an army 250,000 strong that fought extrely well in Italy, southern and eastern france (and fough more effectivly then the Brits or Yanks for that matter).

Thanks for the backup on that issue.

Although I'm not so sure about your claim that the Free French fought more effectively than the US Army.

[Serb]

Sure, how those frog-eaters could fought better then super-mega-uber-heroes... an Americans?
Right?

[David Floyd]

Serb, don't talk about subjects you know little about.

I'm not attacking the Red Army, so extend the same courtesy to the American Army and look at the actual issue

[Serb]

I'm not attacking the Red Army,

"I believe in general ****ness of Russian army throughout history" .
David Floyd.

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by Ned

Also, when the Visigoths began to forceably convert the Jews of Spain, they called in their brothers, the Berber/Jews from Africa, who with Arab reinforcements, took Spain.

Or at least so told the medieval spanish chroniclers in order to justify several pogromes.

[David Floyd]

"I believe in general ****ness of Russian army throughout history" .
David Floyd.

Sorry, I don't recall saying that in quite those terms.

And even if I did, it has absolutely no bearing on the subject at hand.

[David Floyd]

Oh, and the proof that that isn't a direct quote is that I wouldn't use the term "****ness". It's not a real word, and my command of my own language is a bit better than that. Sorry, try again, serb.

[Serb]

Oh, you've quite a short memory David. You've said exactly those words (and btw, forced me to make search on dictionary.com for word "****ness". I'm still have no idea what do you mean when you've used this word. I could only guess.) and in your next post in that thread you've explained where it sucked, how it sucked and when it sucked. I don't remember the name of that thread, but there you've said that Russians will lose to GB, I said that you should abandon kickboxing, then you said what you've said.
Do you remember now?

Ok, lets stop this threadjack before it turns into another DF and all, all, all vs. Serb.

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by Ned
Did Austria kick in and help Germany pay reparations to the Jews and others it killed and stole from?

Well, we already started in the 50s, but all went too slow and many claims were delayed. The US didn't care much because they wanted our economy to get up on its feet soon. Then there was a shameful lethargy and nothing happened for a long time until in the 80s discussion began to rise again. In the 90s, Austria started to work harder on solving its past and restitutions were made, not only to Jes but e.g. also for East Europeans who worked in forced labour - this was even done under the right wing gov. 2 years ago.
Right now, it's national doctrine that the state of Austria was a victim (as the Anschluß was forcefully) but Austrians have a responsbility for what they did in those times.

[David Floyd]

Oh, you've quite a short memory David. You've said exactly those words (and btw, forced me to make search on dictionary.com for word "****ness". I'm still have no idea what do you mean when you've used this word. I could only guess.)

Sorry. "****ness" is just not a word I would use, unless I was quoting you. You use it quite often.

and in your next post in that thread you've explained where it sucked, how it sucked and when it sucked.

Well, there are plenty of examples

but there you've said that Russians will lose to GB, I said that you should abandon kickboxing, then you said what you've said.
Do you remember now?

I remember you saying that my kickboxing wouldn't help me against a drunk Russian. I don't recall saying that Great Britain would beat Russia (although up to 1945, that would probably be quite accurate).

[Serb]

I HATE YOU FLOYD.
I've spend TWO hours digging in archives, just to prove that you are lying.
I knew my memory still serves me well. That's how it started:

DF: Russia? Their conventional military would probably lose against Britain or Germany - maybe even France.

Serb: David, You’ve been hit in your head too often. You should abandon kickboxing as soon as possible before you become a complete idiot.
...................
Two pages later:

DF: "My point is the historical ****tiness of the Russian/Soviet military."

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48539&perpage=20&pagenumber=13

Is it refresh your memory?

P.S. I have nothing to do anyway and archives could be a damn interesting reading.

[Lars-E]

The collaborators were Croatia and the scandinavian countries.

When the Germans invaded Norway they wanted to get hold of the royal family and the government, but they managed to escape to England. From Britain the Norwegian government fought the Nazi occupation. During the war the Norwegian resistance sabotaged and fought the Nazis. But the military capability could not compete with the German warmachine.

The action at Rjukan is ONE well-known example. (It's even in the pc-game "Medal of Honor"). Nazi Germany may possibly have produced nuclear weapons if it were not for the Norwegians.

Sweden btw, received Norwegians resistance fighters and Jews. Some Norwegians went to Sweden and then to England where they coordinated their efforts with the allies.

How you turn these historical facts into collaboration is history falsification at best.

[Guardian]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Azazel, I stand, as always, in utter readiness to accept and concede to any fact.

When someone says that Norway didn't colaborate with the Nazis in its shameful history, I cannot, will not, and my conscience won't let me accept it.

What, you mean to tell us that you have a conscience?!

Well, congratulations, I guess.

-And congratulations on almost managing to piss me off with your pathetic little trolls.

As you know, the real trolls live in the Norwegian mountains, and they could eat you for lunch any day of the week. -Or perhaps not... if you yourself taste as foul as your posts, then I'd say your probably pretty safe from them. Have a nice life...

[Ming]

Serb and David Floyd...

CHILL... stop your petty bickering and threadjacking.

I don't care who started it, but I'm ending it right now.

The next one of you that continues this ANYWHERE in these forums is going to get restricted.

YOU GOT THAT...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh... and after looking through some of the other posts here, EVERYBODY SHOULD CHILL!