Say "NO!" to the Occupation!

[Dinner]

If this is a ligitimate post then your stand is admirable if legally criminal. Of course the fact that the poster is a settler who choice this topic to make his first post does leave me with a nagging suspection that Firelad is a double alais for another poster here at 'poly.

Either way it doesn't concern me.

[Winston]

Maybe Saddam will send your family $5,000 after you've successfully dodged and emigrated. Might be worth a try.

[tandeetaylor]

This isn't his first post.

[Goingonit]

The reason I won't ever live in Israel (or one of them) is the draft. I don't want to be a soldier, and I don't want to be in jail.

If you're emigrating, fine. I support you in your choice, if that's the way you feel - I don't agree with you at all, mind you - but what really gets me is people who continue to live in the state of Israel -which, like it or not, is built on and continues to live thanks to conscription - and refuse to be drafted.

[Dinner]

Clicking on Firelad's name in the thread page revials a total post count of one which was made in the thread "Say "NO" to the occupation".

Sorry Tandee but this is the first and only post made under that user name. I think it would be interesting to trace which server this fellow is using and see if his posts even originated in Isreal. I'd bet even money that the name Firelad is a double alais made up by one of our resident anti-Isreal types and the whole story is fiction.

Any of you techies out there know how to trace which server Firelad used to make this post?

[Winston]

Oerdin,

What's more, he entered "Mark" as first name and "L." as last name in his profile. MarkL incidentally is the name we used to know the poster Saint Marcus by.

Might be a coincidence though...

[Dinner]

I've notified Ming and I hope he follows up this lead. Gepap may just have been right about someone being banned over this thread.

[Gatekeeper]

Very interesting. **evil laughter**

[GePap]

We had a firelad post here a few weeks back about how his friends the peace activists had been shot at by settlers while picking olives with Palestinians. I assume it is the same person, though i do not know.

[Dinner]

Profile For Firelad Search for all posts by this user.

Date Registered: 26-05-2002
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Status: Settler
Total Posts: 1 (0.01 posts per day)
Posts Stats: A: 1 | D: 1 | M: 1 | HP: 0
Last Post: 16-11-2002 15:27
Say "NO!" to the Occupation!
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ICQ Number: 32215733
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Birthday June 2, 1985
First Name Mark
Last Name L.
Gender Male
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Location Haifa, Israel.
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This all was taken right off of Firelad's user profile. By doing a search for posts made by user Firelad I found he has made about one dozen posts in total but only one of them has been in an on topic board so that is why his post count is still one.

I'd still like to see what server was used to send his posts to 'poly and I'll check into finding out more about the two messenger I.D.s

[tandeetaylor]

OK, so the posts that he made before were long enough ago that they're gone. He did post before, and I'm not the only one who remembers him.

[tandeetaylor]

edit: nevermind

Oh, and hey, we have the same birthday. Maybe it's me.

[GePap]

Here's a link to his previous post:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65589

It does not disprove oerdin's allegations, but it does confrim that a firelad has posted before.

[Dinner]

I wouldn't call them allegations so much as sneaky suspecitions. Double alaises have been seen here on 'poly many times before and no doubt they will again be seen in the future.

The real problem is only the moderators can track down where these posts are coming from; if they are originating from outside Isreal then I think it is safe to say the story is a hoax but they should be considered legit if they did originate from an Isreali server. Hopefully Ming will be able to do the leg work and we'll have our anwser soon.

[Ramo]

Question: Is it, in your opinion, moral or whatever (you know what I mean) for me to dodge the draft or go to the US in order to escape the prison sentence that is a consequence of disobeying the draft (assuming that you do not consider not being in the Army moral)?

Yes. I think it's perfectly moral to oppose the draft not only based on the actions of the IDF, but on the opposition of forced labor. Congrats on standing up for what you believe.