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  • #106
    social democrats require strong economic government control yes, yet they also require that government allow citizens to live out their lives, make their own choices, and not intervene in their personal lives, for the most part. It is libertarian in some senses of the word and clearly not in others.

    Doesn't matter cause libertarian is used as an absolute opposite from authoritarian on a sliding scale here. Someone being say, a -5 on the scale doesn't make him libertarian per se but simply that much closer to the absolute and NOT in an economic sense. Nor does a 5 necessarily make someone an authoritarian.

    So 40% of the people who answered this poll are not left-wing libertarians or even left-wing and libertarian but people on the left-wing and the libertarian sides of two separate scales.

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    • #107
      Originally posted by KoalaBear33


      I am not a communist but you have been brainwashed by the neo-liberal capitalists.
      You are just plain stupid. Capitalism is not merchantilism you dingbat.

      South America is totally ****ed up because of your capitalism... and compare present day Russia to the communist Russia (the economic dimesion only)...
      Dingbat: Read the first statement I made concerning this.

      The reason you even think it is better is because YOU benefit while others are worse off. You have a very close minded view. If all you care about is yourself, then go ahead and support capitalism...
      Go ahead and support capitalism along with 80% OF THE PEOPLE! WE KNOW THE FAULTS IN YOUR BELIEFS, LUCKILY YOU MAKE THE MINORITY! YOU MAKE THE MINORITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A LEFTIST MARXIST DICTATORSHIP! YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED! I WILL SEE TO IT YOU DON'T!

      That's right: get HIS plans accomplished... I don't follow Italy but we'll see how much better off Italy is in 10 years... let me make a prediction: Italians' unemployment rate will increase, their lifestyles will be slightly worse off, workers will have less power, AND Berlusconi will double his wealth in 10 years...
      My prediction: The unemployment will fall, GDP per capita growth will double, socialism will be erased and the country will prosper because OF THE RIGHT WING GOVERNMENT THEY HAVE. THEY DON'T HAVE AN IDIOT IN POWER THAT WOULD OF LED TO THE DECAY OF THE COUNTRY AND OF THE PEOPLE. THE IDIOT I AM TALKING ABOUT IS THE MARXIST.

      BTW, yes I am a fool... thanks for pointing that out...

      KoalaBear33
      You are a fool for trying to ruin the welfare of 80% of the people in the developed world. That is what capitalism does.

      Capitalism made a country like Chile what it is today... NOW A COUNTRY WITH THE MOST STABLE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND A GOOD STANDARD OF LIVING MAINTAINING 7% GDP GROWTH ANNUALLY! THAT IS WHAT PURE CAPITALISM DOES.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #108
        The poll would make a lot more sense if they renamed authoritarian/libertarian to civil-authoritarian/libertarian. It's just a little silly with social democrats going around saying they're left-libertarians.
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • #109
          Capitalism is not merchantilism you dingbat.
          That's what the world needs. Late-teens Hispanic Archie Bunker.
          "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
          "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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          • #110
            Originally posted by Stefu
            Late-teens Hispanic Archie Bunker.
            Wouldn't he had called him Meathead if he really were a late teen Hispanic Archie Bunker.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #111
              you're right, berlusconi is a capitalist. but he's also extremely corrupt. he's a corrupt capitalist.
              Originally posted by Fez
              And you are a communist... so who can believe a word of a leftist? I definitely cannot.
              well, if you would check out my results you'd see i'm exactly in the middle. but i guess for a fascist i really am a leftist communist. and for leftist communists i'm a capitalistic pig

              He is a good leader, and a good stateman.
              well, that proves your ignorance.

              a question to you, fez: do you judge a person by his party or by what he does?
              - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
              - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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              • #112
                Berlusconi is an excellent leader and his party is the best to be in power... but of course a leftist like you denies the greatness of a machevillian (SP?) leader...
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #113
                  Originally posted by DinoDoc
                  Haven't we already dealt with that one already?
                  And it's getting funnier every time!
                  The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                  • #114
                    Uh...Fez. Machiavellian qualities usually aren't considered to be ideal in democratically elected leaders....
                    The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                    • #115
                      Originally posted by Fez
                      Berlusconi is an excellent leader and his party is the best to be in power... but of course a leftist like you denies the greatness of a machevillian (SP?) leader...
                      read my last post please before you answer
                      - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
                      - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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                      • #116
                        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


                        Uh...Fez. Machiavellian qualities usually aren't considered to be ideal in democratically elected leaders....
                        Hence my political scores... look at the chart... you will see where I am located on the chart.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #117
                          Originally posted by Ramo
                          It's just a little silly with social democrats going around saying they're left-libertarians.
                          Oh, well uh... in that sense I agree.

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                          • #118
                            In the section marked "gibbering loon"?
                            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                            • #119
                              Originally posted by sabrewolf


                              read my last post please before you answer
                              I do not need to.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #120
                                Cuba

                                Yea Cuba has a great standard of living ,is the elete driving 1960 cars yet??

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